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At that point they would be downlisted. We are getting there... I suspect the WDFW will find a couple additional breeding pairs this year, then they have to document the pup survival... we are a few years down the road I would guess. Even when they are delisted, it's going to be a huge battle to get hunting on the landscape. The WDFW better have it's stuff together for the lawsuits that are sure to come.
Quote from: WAcoyotehunter on June 17, 2014, 10:07:50 AMAt that point they would be downlisted. We are getting there... I suspect the WDFW will find a couple additional breeding pairs this year, then they have to document the pup survival... we are a few years down the road I would guess. Even when they are delisted, it's going to be a huge battle to get hunting on the landscape. The WDFW better have it's stuff together for the lawsuits that are sure to come."The WDFW better have it's stuff together for the lawsuits that are sure to come."Especially when folks find out how most of the wolves really ended up in WA! I wonder how they will spin that little bit of info?
Quote from: wolfbait on June 17, 2014, 12:12:13 PMQuote from: WAcoyotehunter on June 17, 2014, 10:07:50 AMAt that point they would be downlisted. We are getting there... I suspect the WDFW will find a couple additional breeding pairs this year, then they have to document the pup survival... we are a few years down the road I would guess. Even when they are delisted, it's going to be a huge battle to get hunting on the landscape. The WDFW better have it's stuff together for the lawsuits that are sure to come."The WDFW better have it's stuff together for the lawsuits that are sure to come."Especially when folks find out how most of the wolves really ended up in WA! I wonder how they will spin that little bit of info? I'm not looking for an argument; just an honest question...How do you figure the folks are going to find out, what you beleive to be the truth of how wolves ended up in WA? IMO- What would it matter if what you call the truth came out? All they would do is deny it. Seems like a he said she said debate. Do you agree?
"The wolves are here and right or wrong the majority of the public arguably wants them. State and national forests belong to everyone so it doesn't really matter what people living next to them think. The focus should be on getting management of them in place, not this nonsense."So that's scientific wildlife management, what some patchouli oil store owner in Seattle thinks should happen in the Methow? Sometimes the feces that comes out of your mouth amazes me. I'm sure the majority of the population of King and Pierce Co.s could be convinced by you wolf lovers that we need four different species of wolves for biological diversity. You could probably also convince them that polar bears are endangered in WA. That doesn't mean it makes any wildlife management sense whatsoever. The majority of the public believe the crap that you and the HSUS put on the TV. They do no research and they're willing to cast a vote based on no facts. That's why wildlife management is supposed to be in the hands of biologists and game management officers.
Quote from: pianoman9701 on June 18, 2014, 11:46:57 AM"The wolves are here and right or wrong the majority of the public arguably wants them. State and national forests belong to everyone so it doesn't really matter what people living next to them think. The focus should be on getting management of them in place, not this nonsense."So that's scientific wildlife management, what some patchouli oil store owner in Seattle thinks should happen in the Methow? Sometimes the feces that comes out of your mouth amazes me. I'm sure the majority of the population of King and Pierce Co.s could be convinced by you wolf lovers that we need four different species of wolves for biological diversity. You could probably also convince them that polar bears are endangered in WA. That doesn't mean it makes any wildlife management sense whatsoever. The majority of the public believe the crap that you and the HSUS put on the TV. They do no research and they're willing to cast a vote based on no facts. That's why wildlife management is supposed to be in the hands of biologists and game management officers.pianoman9701, the way I read that was, just like the way the vote banning hound hunting as an example, the total population of people who vote like the "patchouli oil" crown of Seattle, Vashon Island, etc...out number the rest of us 2 to 1 in this state.So spending time "infighting" is not to our benefit.I could be wrong, it has been known to happen on occasion, LOL
I don't care what most of the public think they want. That has nothing to do with game management. They have no idea of what management goals are or why the bios do what they do. Most aren't even aware there are bios in the field. With regards to game management, most of the public are ignorant idiots. And you and your ilk feed on that, and it's wrong. You show them pretty pictures of wolf pups while farmer Joe loses his living and we lose our ungulates. You talk and talk about what good wolves are for the ecosystem and how we need them and that proper management was applied to allow them back in, and then you throw all of that out the window to support public opinion instead of wildlife management to manage the wolves. You have zero integrity. You're a shill for the anti-hunting crowd who wants to use wolves to end our sport and heritage.