black bears vs .300 black out

[huntnfmly]

Hey everybody i want to get some ammo made up for my ar for bear in .300 blk was thinking about 155 or 208 grain hornady amax bullets or the barnes all copper bullets was looking for opinions or input on other bullets that you think would be good.

[h20hunter]

You ca look back at my thread from last year regarding Barnes in .270 150 gr. Need a bit more speed but mine devastated my bear. Qtr away, took out liver lung lung and broke far side shoulder. Great retention and mr. Bear went about 15 feet. The bear I'm referring to was a spring bear and shown in my avatar.

[coop2424]

150-200 grains seems way to heavy for the 300 blk.  What shot distance are you looking at?  I guess it could work like inside 75 yards or so.   I have not looked at any ballistic charts just going off memory but wouldn't 150 gr only be going like around 1800-1900 at the barrel? 

[Atroxus]

There was an article in the may 2014 American hunter magazine where the author used and endorsed .300 blk with 120gr Barnes tac-tx bullets for black bear. Article claimed that "This all-copper bullet with a polymer tip performed flawlessly on my hunt, mushrooming beautifully with enough wallop to penetrate the thick hair and hide, and destroying both shoulders of a 375-pound bear."

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[Stein]

I know that for my 168 TSX in 30 cal the minimum velocity on target to reliably expand is 1,800.  Thus, you need to be coming out of the barrel faster than that unless you plan on getting real close.

[Jamieb]

Imho you can't make any cartridge based off a .223 case a bear cartridge, I don't care what bullet you use

[RadSav]

There was an article in the may 2014 American hunter magazine where the author used and endorsed .300 blk with 120gr Barnes tac-tx bullets for black bear. Article claimed that "This all-copper bullet with a polymer tip performed flawlessly on my hunt, mushrooming beautifully with enough wallop to penetrate the thick hair and hide, and destroying both shoulders of a 375-pound bear."

With the Black Out velocity limitations I think the TAC-TX would be about the only all copper round I would try.  I'd probably go to something like the Hornady 130 grain or similar.  Not sure I would go heavier than 150 grain.  I've seen the Hornady 130 Spire Point from a 308 take a number of bear.  I've always been amazed at how well it performed.  I'd expect the 150 grain Partition to be an outstanding choice too.

[huntnfmly]

Thanks everybody

[mountainman]

Imho you can't make any cartridge based off a .223 case a bear cartridge, I don't care what bullet you use

back in the day, a man by the name of Bob Milek killed all sorts of big game with the TCU line up. All based off the 223 case, in 6mm,6.5mm, and 7mm. All from a contender. Reasonable range, proper bullet, and we'll placed shots

[RadSav]

Imho you can't make any cartridge based off a .223 case a bear cartridge, I don't care what bullet you use

back in the day, a man by the name of Bob Milek killed all sorts of big game with the TCU line up. All based off the 223 case, in 6mm,6.5mm, and 7mm. All from a contender. Reasonable range, proper bullet, and we'll placed shots

Good man, good writer!

[jasnt]

If an arrow can kill a bear then your 300blk will will do just fine

[bullfisher]

Definitely not the round of choice for bear imo. You have to keep in mind the loss of energy and momentum beyond 200yds, but with a proper load it can be done. A 130grn Accubond would be my choice. 

[RadSav]

If an arrow can kill a bear then your 300blk will will do just fine

If an arrow can kill an elephant then your 300blk will do just fine 

[bullfisher]

If an arrow can kill a bear then your 300blk will will do just fine

If an arrow can kill an elephant then your 300blk will do just fine 

HA!  Exactly...

[jasnt]

If an arrow can kill a bear then your 300blk will will do just fine

If an arrow can kill an elephant then your 300blk will do just fine 

HA!  Exactly...

Glad you guys got a kick out of my lil joke

It drives me nuts how people say you can't use that cal it won't work,that bullet won't work ,or you can but shot placement is critical.... Shot placement is always critical unless your shooting a cannon. 

With 180gr. Bullet the 300blk is going about 1600fps at the muzzle. That's just under 1000 ft/lbs. And just over 800 ft/lbs at 200 yards.  I would not feel under gunned.