Remington 700 Long Range 300 Win. Mag

[kbrowne14]

I finally bought the Remington 700 LR in 300 Win Mag.  I found one at West Coast Armory North in Everett.  It had already been recalled, the trigger was set to a crisp 7 lb pull.  My first impression was how nice it looks and how comfortable it feels.  The trigger may need to be replaced or worked on if I can't adjust it down far enough.  One thing I didn't notice until I brought it home was, When I lift the bolt you can see the piece on the rear of the bolt cock back, normal right?  But If I don't bring the bolt back at all and just lower the bolt knob to lock the bolt down, the firing pin goes forward slowly.  It won't stay cocked unless I bring the bolt backwards a little.  I have heard of other remingtons doing this, some of them do it, some of them don't.  I know for sure that they aren't supposed to do that, but I don't know what to do about it right now, it doesn't hinder the accuracy at all and I can't afford to fix it right now.  Any Gunsmiths out there know what I am talking about?  If so, how much to fix it?  Other than that, the fit and finish is very nice, it really is a beautiful rifle.  I think a muzzle brake is going to be necessary with how light it is.  It weighs in at around 9.2 lbs

I have yet to shoot the thing.  I just purchased a scope base yesterday.  I should have a Nightforce 1 piece 20 moa rail coming on tuesday.  After that, I will put my father in laws Bushnell Elite Tactical 6-24 scope on it so I can start shooting and getting a load made.  I am going to put a Vortex Viper PST 4-16 ffp Mrad, but I have a work a few overtimes to get it.  I will try and give some range reports on the rifle.  My father in law has a Sendero in 300 win mag so I am going to start at or below his load and see where I am at and then go from there.  I'll be shooting 200 gr. Accubonds.       

[fish-on37]

I bought one back around Christmas. Shoots 1/2 inch groups with 180 gr Barnes ttsx factory ammo. However, put 10 rounds through it and the extractor blade has a hard time grabbing the fired brass. But its a shooter. Put a 2.5 pound timney trigger in it. Love that set up.

[ELKBURGER]

Lets see pics of that bad boy

[WoodlandShooter]

you may not need the 20 MOA base on the 300WM. The reticle on the Vortex Viper PST 4-16 ffp by itself will get you to 1100 Yards when shooting the 200 NAB at 2850.

[kbrowne14]

I can't post any pics of it right now, I will soon though.  It seems stupid to post pictures of a gun with nothing on it.  But I kind of started this post because there is very little information on the gun as it is so new.  You really have to look hard to find anything.  So I will post a bunch of pictures and do close ups of everything that I would think to be important for somebody that is possibly looking to buy one.  I am going to try and do a bunch of follow up stuff on this thread.  When the base gets here I will post the pictures. 

I do want to do a 20 moa rail.  There will be times that I have the opportunity to shoot further than 1100 yards.  I don't think I would ever consider shooting an animal that far, but steel definitely.

[kbrowne14]

I just got the Scope Base on and I like I said earlier, I put on a Bushnell 6-24 Elite Tactical on it so that I can start shooting and developing a load.  I torqued the Screws in the Nightforce rail to 25 in/lbs with some blue loctite.  The base went on pretty easy, but there was a little bit of misalignment.  The screws still fit in the holes very easily, but you could tell that it wasn't absolutely perfect.  I am not concerned about it.  I adjusted the trigger down as far as it would go.  I don't have a gauge, but it feels like it is about 4-5 lb pull.  The trigger is almost unusable, it would be if it wasn't a clean break.  It needs work or I need a Timney.  I can't afford either right now though.  I am still set on getting the Vortex Viper PST 4-16 FFP MRad. 

I loaded some rounds for it a few days ago.  I also attempted to measure the distance to the rifling in the bore.  I took a fired case a put a 200 grain accubond in the mouth and slowly chambered the cartridge.  I did this about 15 times until I started getting the exact same number within about .005 inches about 5 times.  That length to the end of the Accubond was 3.560 inches.  My load will be as follows. 
200 Gr. Accubond,
77 gr. H1000,
CCI mag rifle primers,
lake city Brass
seated to 3.510. 
This is the exact load my father in law uses in his 300 win mag Sendero which is essentially the same gun.  This is a middle of the road load, it is not really low, nor is it really high.  I estimated the load at being around 2900 fps because that is what his is shooting. 

I will post some more pictures when I am able to go shoot the gun.  I will give a range report, however, this will be mostly a break in type of day, but we will see what the groups look like.  I don't expect much yet.  I will keep it updated the best I can with range reports, and pictures to go along with it.

[ELKBURGER]

Sweeeet

[CAMPMEAT]

Beautiful. You won't be disappointed.

[wildmanoutdoors]

Sweet shooter!

[kbrowne14]

All right guys.  I was finally able to get out and shoot the thing.  The closest place for me to shoot 100 yards is at Kenmore gun range.  I don't particularly like Kenmore, but I have 2 little soul stealers at home and I don't have time to go further right now.  Nothing wrong with Kenmore, but I don't really like shooting off their benches, I prefer prone shooting.

So I did a light break in of the rifle, I started out shooting 10 rounds and cleaning in between each round.  After the first 10, I cleaned every 3 rounds until I was done shooting, 25 rounds.  My load as mentioned earlier in the thread was 200 gr. Accubond, 77 grains H1000, loaded to about 3.510.  The first thing I noticed was how brutal it was to shoot.  It kicked hard and the trigger had to be muscled.  I had a lot of trouble holding groups, granted I wasn't that worried about it because I was breaking in the gun.  I was pretty much all over the target.  My average groups were around 1.5 to 2 inches during the break in, with the occasional sub moa group.   

After the first day of shooting, I wasn't so sure.  I absolutely hate the trigger, it is a solid 6-7 lb pull, not 3.5 as advertised.  The set screw on the XMP trigger sticks out when you try to dial down the pull weight, and I can feel it on my finger when I shoot.  Also, I noticed some pressure signs on my case head.  I could see the ejector stamp, a slight extractor mark, and a slightly flattened primer. 

Shooting day #2

I dropped my load down a little bit to 76.5 grains H1000.  I went back to Kenmore.  This time I didn't do any cleaning, I just shot.  Again, the gun was all over the place, 1.5 inch groups average for the first 15 rounds.  But the gun started to really settle down after that, I was able to get numerous groups in the 5/8-3/4 inch range.  I don't think I was doing anything different for the last 15 rounds, so I think the gun is starting to settle down.  I will continue to tweak the load further as I think I can get better accuracy out of it.  But this is all very preliminary and is not an end all range report of the capabilities of this gun.  I have a lot more shooting to do.  But this is very promising because I haven't even really begun to develop a load, I just rushed this load to get shooting before hunting season.  I will shoot a couple more times before the season starts. 

I was also able to get my hands on a Magneto Speed Chrony.  My 6 shot string was pretty consistent, within 30 fps.  My average speed was 2840 fps with no present pressure signs.

Right off the bat, this gun absolutely needs muzzle brake to tame this recoil.  Shooting off the benches at Kenmore gun range, you have to sit off to the side of the gun and you can't get right behind it, so the recoil can kind of turn your body a bit.  It is not an optimal shooting position.  The XMP trigger from the factory is terrible.  The pull is so heavy I could not even figure out when the gun would go off, which obviously effects accuracy greatly.  A trigger alone would make this gun shootable.


I think I am going to love this gun after a little bit of work to it, nothing major.  A brake and a trigger job is all it needs.
 

[ELKBURGER]

Thanks for the candid review. I think you will have that thing whipped into shape in no time, ready to tip over whatever you are shooting at.
I agree about the recoil. I took my .300 WM 700 out yesterday and still feel some soreness in my shoulder today. I plan on putting a brake, trigger and better optics someday when funds allow.

Good luck on dailing in your baby

[b23]

First off, very nice looking rifle, you had me at Remington 700.

I know a guy over on LRH dot com that could best be described as the 300 Win Mag whisperer.  I think those 300 winnies very well could talk to him.  His screen name is Broz and before he switched to a new toy, his 300win mag was nearly legendary.  Not only did he take multiple animals with it but he loaned it out to friends and family and they all took their critters with it too.  If you have any interest in stretching the legs out on your 300 Winnie, Broz would be an excellent resource for you because of the 20 or so animals in 2yrs his 300win took down, I think the closest shot was around 300ish yards and I believe most were in the 400-1000yds range, all were taken cleanly using 215 Bergers and I know he's a HUGE fan of H1000.

[ELKBURGER]

First off, very nice looking rifle, you had me at Remington 700.

I know a guy over on LRH dot com that could best be described as the 300 Win Mag whisperer.  I think those 300 winnies very well could talk to him.  His screen name is Broz and before he switched to a new toy, his 300win mag was nearly legendary.  Not only did he take multiple animals with it but he loaned it out to friends and family and they all took their critters with it too.  If you have any interest in stretching the legs out on your 300 Winnie, Broz would be an excellent resource for you because of the 20 or so animals in 2yrs his 300win took down, I think the closest shot was around 300ish yards and I believe most were in the 400-1000yds range, all were taken cleanly using 215 Bergers and I know he's a HUGE fan of H1000.

Thanks for the info

[Blacklab]

Nice rifle 

[BULLBLASTER]

sweet gun! I would recommend that you try the 215 bergers in that thing! they are money in my RUM!