Wolf shot near Pullman! Update 11/14/2014 pg. 8

[KFhunter]

A few things strike me. He chased the wolf in his truck. Dumb. Also, this is not the first poaching investigation. We know of the Twisp incident and subsequent charges. And, there aren't any wolf packs in Whitman Co. The WDFW says so. Why would Steve Crown lie about that?  If a wolf is killed where the WDFW says there aren't any wolf packs, that should be a defense. "I thought the coyote was pretty big but since there are no wolves here,..." This "passing through" garbage is BS. What do you want to bet a pack is acknowledged there within two months.

Chasing it off with his truck sounds to me like someone trying to haze a wolf from eating their livestock/pets etc.  I can totally see that. 

Doesn't sound like a poacher to me,  what poacher would go tearing through a field chasing his prey?  They'd do it quiet then shut up.   

A poacher also isn't "very cooperative with WDFW agents" and they don't go calling them telling them they poached a wolf.

[pianoman9701]

OK

[boneaddict]

Perfect politician.  Mislead with claims/propaganda without actually "lieing". 

does it work the other way too.

"I'm not aware of any wolves in Whitman county so this must have been a hybrid which can be shot on sight....."

[MR5x5]

I consider it pretty sad since the Fed does not consider the Eastern Wa wolves as endangered under the ESA anymore as Eastern WA falls in the overall Rocky Mtn ESA zone.  As far as the fed is concerned we should be able to control wolves in E-WA.  This is strictly an example of this state sticking it to it's own citizens.  Give Olympia what they want - A thriving pack in Capitol Forest.

[KFhunter]

It's a bit early yet,  but I think this guy might end up being a good candidate for a go fund me account for his defense.


I'll be watching how it plays out, it could very well be a battle between WDFW,wolf conservation groups and other pro-wolfers VS ranchers/farmers and others negatively affected by wolves.

Once the farmer is named after charges are filed we'll be off to the races 

I just urge folks to not believe everything they read about this guy until his story is made clear,  WDFW is setting the stage and swinging public opinion against this guy.

[bobcat]

He broke the law and admitted to it. I don't understand what's left to debate. If he had chased a moose in his truck and then shot it, would any of you support him?

If it was attacking livestock that would be different. Maybe it was? I don't know, but from what we know, he made a big mistake, and a very stupid one at that.

[pianoman9701]

 

[buckfvr]

Whats done is done............lets see what develops from a more reliable source before we get on the " he broke the law " band wagon...........

DNA testing should be required and wdfw needs to be truthful about wolves so instances like this can be avoided.

[wolfbait]

It's a bit early yet,  but I think this guy might end up being a good candidate for a go fund me account for his defense.


I'll be watching how it plays out, it could very well be a battle between WDFW,wolf conservation groups and other pro-wolfers VS ranchers/farmers and others negatively affected by wolves.

Once the farmer is named after charges are filed we'll be off to the races 

I just urge folks to not believe everything they read about this guy until his story is made clear,  WDFW is setting the stage and swinging public opinion against this guy.

 

[KFhunter]

He broke the law and admitted to it. I don't understand what's left to debate. If he had chased a moose in his truck and then shot it, would any of you support him?

If it was attacking livestock that would be different. Maybe it was? I don't know, but from what we know, he made a big mistake, and a very stupid one at that.

stupid?  really??

If this wolf was threatening this farmers animals then chasing it off with a truck was a good decision.  The farmer was hazing the wolf with the tools available to him.   Did WDFW issue free rubber bullets and bear banger's or bean bags to everyone with livestock?? NO,  so how do you suggest that livestock owners haze wolves and defend their animals?

If I seen a wolf threatening my animals I'd probably chase it with an ATV,  I've done that with domestic dogs..it would seem the natural thing to do if you didn't just want to shoot it right away. 

What happens if the wolf won't be deterred?  It keeps coming back intent on killing the farmers animal?  Well he decided to shoot it then report to the WDFW in good faith. 
WDFW say's we can shoot a wolf "caught in the act" but this farmer didn't want to wait until the wolf killed his animal, nor would I.


WDFW betrayed his trust and instead leveled poaching charges against the farmer.


I'd bet you a beer it played out just like that.

[Special T]

Perfect politician.  Mislead with claims/propaganda without actually "lieing". 

does it work the other way too.

"I'm not aware of any wolves in Whitman county so this must have been a hybrid which can be shot on sight....."

And perhaps the farmer should get a DNA sample  to check if it does have "dog blood" in it...

[pianoman9701]

Perfect politician.  Mislead with claims/propaganda without actually "lieing". 

does it work the other way too.

"I'm not aware of any wolves in Whitman county so this must have been a hybrid which can be shot on sight....."

And perhaps the farmer should get a DNA sample  to check if it does have "dog blood" in it...

I'm betting that's already been requested. Good catch, ST.

[bobcat]

KF, yes I would say it was stupid, and I bet the guy who did it is thinking the same thing about now. Unless he just enjoys giving thousands of dollars to attorneys and a substantial amount in the form of fines to the government.

But then I don't know the guy, maybe he's got millions of dollars laying around and nothing better to do with it than try to test the waters and see how serious the state is when you kill an animal that's listed on the endangered species list.   

[mulehunter]

Not my problem, He ask for it. 

[KFhunter]

KF, yes I would say it was stupid, and I bet the guy who did it is thinking the same thing about now. Unless he just enjoys giving thousands of dollars to attorneys and a substantial amount in the form of fines to the government.

But then I don't know the guy, maybe he's got millions of dollars laying around and nothing better to do with it than try to test the waters and see how serious the state is when you kill an animal that's listed on the endangered species list.   

I'd say he was honest to a fault. 
If being honest and telling WDFW he shot a wolf that was threatening his livestock under the 'caught in the act' rule is stupid.......hmmm I see your point Bobcat. 

touche