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Re: Wolf shot near Pullman!
« Reply #90 on: October 16, 2014, 07:17:13 PM »
I was hunting on property in the Pullman/colfax area just last weekend. 2 members of my group saw a wolf on the property and I found multiple deer carcasses with the stomachs and throats ripped open and eaten on. I left Sunday but our group called the wdfw to have them come out and document the kills. I know some people will think its stupid to tell the wdfw and that we should have just taken care of it ourselves but it really isn't worth the risk so we'd rather go thru the proper channels. Hope something comes from it other than just the regular cover up bs we get from the wdfw.

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Re: Wolf shot near Pullman!
« Reply #91 on: October 17, 2014, 07:51:53 AM »
pretty easy to drop a round into the open bolt of a  Rem 700 and slam the bolt home in a hurry, Ask me how I know :chuckle:
               
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Re: Wolf shot near Pullman!
« Reply #92 on: October 17, 2014, 08:07:19 AM »
Interesting how many non-ethical hunters we have on this site............

This has nothing to do with hunting. It has to do with wolf/human conflict resolution. It has about as much to do with hunting as rounding up stray dogs in a neighborhood. Many people here who are advocating the killing of problem animals do so as ranchers and farmers exposed to losses from animals which are inappropriately dispersed around our state. It's a question of survival, not ethics.

The word you were looking for is unethical. Some would argue that pandering to pro-wolf groups to devise a wolf plan which is outrageous in its goals, a plan which ignores the land rights of ranchers and farmers, a plan which will most likely result in less hunting opportunity for the people who are paying to implement it (hunters), a plan that allows wolves to propagate and proliferate in a section of the state which is and has been for 100+ years entirely agricultural, is the most unethical act conceivable. Although, as a hunter I don't support poaching of any animal, I can find no fault or unethical behavior in the actions of someone who kills a wolf in defense of themselves, their family, their home, or their property, including pets and livestock as property.
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Re: Wolf shot near Pullman!
« Reply #93 on: October 17, 2014, 08:28:09 AM »
Interesting how many non-ethical hunters we have on this site............

This has nothing to do with hunting. It has to do with wolf/human conflict resolution. It has about as much to do with hunting as rounding up stray dogs in a neighborhood. Many people here who are advocating the killing of problem animals do so as ranchers and farmers exposed to losses from animals which are inappropriately dispersed around our state. It's a question of survival, not ethics.

The word you were looking for is unethical. Some would argue that pandering to pro-wolf groups to devise a wolf plan which is outrageous in its goals, a plan which ignores the land rights of ranchers and farmers, a plan which will most likely result in less hunting opportunity for the people who are paying to implement it (hunters), a plan that allows wolves to propagate and proliferate in a section of the state which is and has been for 100+ years entirely agricultural, is the most unethical act conceivable. Although, as a hunter I don't support poaching of any animal, I can find no fault or unethical behavior in the actions of someone who kills a wolf in defense of themselves, their family, their home, or their property, including pets and livestock as property.

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Re: Wolf shot near Pullman!
« Reply #94 on: October 17, 2014, 09:08:56 AM »
What happens if the Wolf was in no way a harm to there "livestock" or humans or such?  This wolf wasn't in an offensive mode as it was being chased for miles by pickups across fields.  As far as the loaded gun comments, then please do come to my parents any time and as what was happening across from there house and why the game wardens came out a couple of years ago, then you will understand why I said what I said.

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Re: Wolf shot near Pullman!
« Reply #95 on: October 17, 2014, 09:12:52 AM »
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What happens if the Wolf was in no way a harm to there "livestock" or humans or such?  This wolf wasn't in an offensive mode as it was being chased for miles by pickups across fields.  As far as the loaded gun comments, then please do come to my parents any time and as what was happening across from there house and why the game wardens came out a couple of years ago, then you will understand why I said what I said.

I'm confused.  Unless someone has a time machine, how would what happened in this situation (with the wolf), have anything to do with game wardens at your parents house a couple of years ago? 

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Re: Wolf shot near Pullman!
« Reply #96 on: October 17, 2014, 09:17:51 AM »
What happens if the Wolf was in no way a harm to there "livestock" or humans or such?  This wolf wasn't in an offensive mode as it was being chased for miles by pickups across fields.  As far as the loaded gun comments, then please do come to my parents any time and as what was happening across from there house and why the game wardens came out a couple of years ago, then you will understand why I said what I said.

Wolves no more belong in the Palouse than they do in New York City. It is entirely inappropriate to have wolves living in an area which is almost entirely agricultural. Killing a wolf roaming the Palouse is preventative. Sooner or later, that wolf is going to do harm to a landowner or his family or property. This is one of the main problems with the outrageous wolf plan. There is no distinction given as to appropriate habitat. It's one of the reasons that the farmers and ranchers have been FORCED to manage the wildlife on their own. The WDFW is unwilling to confront the environmentalist wacko groups with which they formerly collaborated to take a firm stand that wolves belong in some places and not in others. To anyone who knows the area and has any sense of proper wildlife management whatsoever, the Palouse is one of the "not" places.
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Re: Wolf shot near Pullman!
« Reply #97 on: October 17, 2014, 09:20:43 AM »
Please, for the sake of humanity, stay away from the Palouse...........

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Re: Wolf shot near Pullman!
« Reply #98 on: October 17, 2014, 10:04:30 AM »
Please, for the sake of humanity, stay away from the Palouse...........
first an invitation to your parents then you ask him to stay away  :chuckle:   :dunno:
https://www.howlforwildlife.org/take_action  It takes 10 seconds and it’s free. To easy to make an excuse not to make your voice heard!!!!!!

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https://apps.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=77.04.012

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Re: Wolf shot near Pullman!
« Reply #99 on: October 17, 2014, 10:07:01 AM »
Snakeriver you seem a little confused.  :dunno:
 
seems to be a lot versions to this story  :chuckle:

weather this wolf had bad intentions or not it has no place amongst homes.  I'm sure you'd be singing a different tune if this wolf was traveling threw where your kids play.
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https://www.howlforwildlife.org/take_action  It takes 10 seconds and it’s free. To easy to make an excuse not to make your voice heard!!!!!!

The commission shall attempt to maximize the public recreational game fishing and hunting opportunities of all citizens, including juvenile, disabled, and senior citizens.
https://apps.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=77.04.012

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Re: Wolf shot near Pullman!
« Reply #100 on: October 17, 2014, 10:20:24 AM »
A mile from where my family farm is, please do tell me how Deer Park is closer?

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Re: Wolf shot near Pullman!
« Reply #101 on: October 17, 2014, 10:30:58 AM »
Please, for the sake of humanity, stay away from the Palouse...........

And for sake of working people's livelihoods, please stay away from having anything to do with the wolf program.
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Re: Wolf shot near Pullman!
« Reply #102 on: October 17, 2014, 10:53:07 AM »
A mile from where my family farm is, please do tell me how Deer Park is closer?

I never said it was closer. This guys place was closer. So let me get this straight, it doesn't make you nervous that this wolf was a mile from where your kids play. But what if the next day it was passing threw your yard, or your neighbors yard. Maybe even stolking your pets or livestock. I'd bet if it was a grizzly you'd be nervous.  My self I don't tolerate any predators near my kids,pets, or livestock. I would have shot it too. Wolf,grizz, cougar or coyote.
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Re: Wolf shot near Pullman!
« Reply #103 on: October 17, 2014, 11:57:59 AM »
SnakeRiver10 Let's set aside your obvious stereotype of all hunters that apparently goes back to some incident at your parents place a few years ago?? :dunno: How does that have anything to do with this situation?

Let's make this simple for you because for all I know you may be in middle school. A wolf was stalking a farmers Home, not a ranch, their personal residence just outside the city, that farmer owns a gun, and defended their family (including their families pets and livestock). End of story. Nothing to do with hunting. Whitman county has no habitat that would provide for a wolf to live their safely without being a danger to communities.

Everything you have said is completely made up conjecture. You are trying to suggest what the wolf was thinking???  :bash: That it wasn't hungry? :bash: Are you kidding me? :bash: You are calling out other posters for not living in Pullman, yet you obviously do not live their either, your parents apparently might....But you nor your parents saw this wolf and do not know any of the circumstances around this incident. with the exception of maybe this happening a mile from their house that sounds like it is near Rim Rock Rd which is nowhere near where any of this happened!

Please go back to your day job, which based on what we have seen is probably mowing lawns.  :hello:

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Re: Wolf shot near Pullman!
« Reply #104 on: October 17, 2014, 01:14:20 PM »
What happens if the Wolf was in no way a harm to there "livestock" or humans or such?  This wolf wasn't in an offensive mode as it was being chased for miles by pickups across fields.  As far as the loaded gun comments, then please do come to my parents any time and as what was happening across from there house and why the game wardens came out a couple of years ago, then you will understand why I said what I said.

Uh-oh, some bad person was firing off guns across from the family farm. I bet that was scary. Just out of interest, how many generations has your family owned this "farm"? How much livestock is raised there? How many very small children do you have running around outside? What is it you grow on this farm? I'm asking because there aren't a lot of farmers in E.WA who are complaining about a someone creating a good wolf. It'd be interesting to know.
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