No on I-594

[ouchfoss]

Not to mention how many people in law enforcement have already spoken out against it.

[Curly]

The bear baiting ban and trapping ban in 1996 were stupid and we are still stuck with the results of those initiatives passing.  Once something becomes a law, it seems to stay that way.

[fishinmike]

I believe King, Pierce, and Snohomish counties will decide this vote.  Westsiders please get No on I-594 word out!

These counties decide most votes, that is why this state is so screwed up for outdoor orientated people. Most of the people in these counties have never left the I-5 corridor and have no clue about anything they don't see on the news.

[Fl0und3rz]

So there is no way to put up another voter initiative that would repeal 594 it once it passes?

While possible, improbable, IMO.  You cannot reason a populace out of a position that they, themselves, were not reasoned into.  We were outspent.  We'll see if a modicum of sanity can overcome such a flurry of misinformation next week.

I could see the Sherriffs and other LE refuse to enforce it, a la CO magazine restrictions.  But is a law that is selectively enforced (IRS) any better than one that is rigorously enforced?  People need to feel the pain of their indiscretions, in order for the law to change.

What I-594 supporters will have done is to define your lawful behavior as and indiscretion and make you subject you the subject of any pain.  Supporters will never see that pain, because they don't realize what they are voting to give up, and thus, they will have no incentive to vote for a repeal.

[pianoman9701]

Check out the Yes-591 Facebook page and the information about Nick Hanauer's recent quote after the Marysville-Pilchuck shooting. Get the word out.   

https://www.facebook.com/YesOn591?fref=nf

I wrote to Hanauer today and got a response back. Apparently, he's a mathematical genius when it comes to removing our rights. Mods, I considered censoring his comments and then didn't. I thought it important to post the kind of man we're dealing with here.:

"I  apologize.  I was overly emotional and in the moment.  However.

The difference between that kid in marysville and the same messed up kid
in canada is that in canada, he¹d have gone to school and punched another
kid.  And we would never have heard about it.  But here  in WA, he grabbed
a .40 cal and killed a bunch of people.  Is that because our kids are
worse than canadian kids??  No.  Kids are screwed up everywhere.  And
kids, especially boys, have horrible judgement.  Maybe you are a mother or
father and have raised some and can testify to this.

The goal of gun policy is to minimize the chances somewhat that people
turn anger into lethality.  We are not a more violent country than any
other.  We are more lethal- because of guns.

So a law that make it harder for bad people to buy guns will absolutely
positively save lives.  And there is incontrovertible data to show
that-Even if you can imagine a corner case where it might not have helped.

I feely admit that I am an *censored*.  Ask my wife.  Ask anyone.  But I am
very good at math.  And 594 will save lives."

[Fl0und3rz]

Thanks for your tireless efforts.  Alas, I doubt even he has read the text of I-594 and has understood its implications.  Perhaps he is just another willing tool.

[huntnphool]

Is there any chance at all this fails? I seriously don't see it.

[Bob33]

Passage of 594 may save some lives. Lots of things would save lives: banning swimming pools, bikes, and skis for starters. Ban the plastic shrink wrap that everything comes in now - it's possible to cut an artery doing so. Fast food - gone.

The list is endless, but all come with a loss of freedom.

[Fl0und3rz]

The beauty with I-594 is that it is somebody else's freedom at risk.

[Hi-Liter]

Passage of 594 may save some lives. Lots of things would save lives: banning swimming pools, bikes, and skis for starters. Ban the plastic shrink wrap that everything comes in now - it's possible to cut an artery doing so. Fast food - gone.

The list is endless, but all come with a loss of freedom.

How do you figure 594 will save lives?

[rim_runner]

well if you're locked up for violating I-594 because you misunderstood the narrow exceptions, you might avoid being killed in an I-5 traffic accident.

[pianoman9701]

Another way it'll save lives is that it'll take so long for someone to read it and re-read it to make sure they're not breaking the law, that the animal for which they were going to hunt with the borrowed firearm will have gone out of season. That animal's life will have been spared. If it saves only one life, it's worth it. No one said it had to be human. 

[Bob33]

Passage of 594 may save some lives. Lots of things would save lives: banning swimming pools, bikes, and skis for starters. Ban the plastic shrink wrap that everything comes in now - it's possible to cut an artery doing so. Fast food - gone.

The list is endless, but all come with a loss of freedom.

How do you figure 594 will save lives?

I said "may", but I suspect that some individuals will be denied firearms who should be.

[Hi-Liter]

Passage of 594 may save some lives. Lots of things would save lives: banning swimming pools, bikes, and skis for starters. Ban the plastic shrink wrap that everything comes in now - it's possible to cut an artery doing so. Fast food - gone.

The list is endless, but all come with a loss of freedom.

How do you figure 594 will save lives?

I know what you said "may", don't get all boiled on it. But, in some of your other threads you are admitting to defeat in this initiative 594. I don't like it when people are ready to throw the towel in when the voting hasn't even been counted. No 594 Yes 591

I said "may", but I suspect that some individuals will be denied firearms who should be.

[huntnphool]

I don't like it when people are ready to throw the towel in when the voting hasn't even been counted. No 594 Yes 591

A recent poll showed that even 54% of those on the east side approve of 594.