Is this Bear baiting?

[Titan-1]

So, along the same topic....if you kill an animal (elk, deer, etc) and watch the gut pile, bear comes to eat it and you take the bear, is that baiting? A bit hazy on this topic....

Yes it's baiting.

Sorry to disagree but this is NOT considered baiting according to the Game dept. I know this because I check with a game warden I know on each and every thing we do before we do it if it might be in the grey area. We killed a nice bear last year and knew there were other bears in the area, so I called and asked him if we could hunt over the gut pile. He really wasn't sure so at there next meeting he made it a topic with all the other game wardens. They came to conclusion that,,, 
YES YOU CAN  hunt a gut pile "OF A LEGALLY HARVESTED AND TAGGED GAME ANIMAL, KILLED IN THAT LOCATION AND NOT TRANSPORTED FROM ONE SPOT TO ANOTHER OR ALTERED IN ANY WAY."
You can not kill a animal in one area and hall the gut pile to another area and hunt it but YES, if you shoot a deer in deer season, "legally", tag it and gut it right there you CAN sit on it to hunt bear.
He said it was no differant then him sending people to hunt the berry fields 

[MtnMuley]

Each warden will differ on controversial issues.  I will guarantee that.  My recommendation is to do what you feel comfortable with and be ready deal with the consequences.  If you are written a ticket, it shouldn't be a surprise.

[Titan-1]

Each warden will differ on controversial issues.  I will guarantee that.  My recommendation is to do what you feel comfortable with and be ready deal with the consequences.  If you are written a ticket, it shouldn't be a surprise.

I defiantly agree with that. That is also why they came to a unanimous agreement that it is legal and I have his number on my speed dial if I ever have any problems with this subject  . I make sure the answer is clear and he will back me before we film anything. 

[lokidog]

I ask a WSFW officer about using anise oil. I was told no, as that is considered baiting.  Just an anti-hunting law that that was voted in by an uniformed voting public.

I think the "scent" issue is more how WDFW chose to interpret "baiting", though I could be wrong.  I don't remember scents as specifically being mentioned as part of the initiative, though again, I could be mistaken.  In my opinion, this is a travesty of interpretation as you are not leaving anything in the woods when you leave.

i was told by a gamie if you were to find a dead deer or etc as long as you dont move it to a location you can hunt over it. Say raod kill, deer makes it 40 yards off the road and dies, he said I could hang a stand and hunt over it.

This would be similar to hunting ducks near corn that was spilled in the normal process of harvesting, not illegal if you or someone else has not placed it there specifically for the purpose of attracting ducks.  If you shoot a deer or elk and gut it within a "reasonable" distance of where it fell, you could hunt over the gutpile. (Just saw your response Titan).

[billythekidrock]

So, along the same topic....if you kill an animal (elk, deer, etc) and watch the gut pile, bear comes to eat it and you take the bear, is that baiting? A bit hazy on this topic....

Yes it's baiting.

Not according to F&W. As long as you don't place or move the gutpile you are ok.

[520backyard]

So sealing and greasing your hunting boots so they are waterproof with bacon grease would be ok since the intent is not to bait a bear but to seal your boots. Right

[boneaddict]

have to agree with BTKR and Titan on this one

[bobcat]

So sealing and greasing your hunting boots so they are waterproof with bacon grease would be ok since the intent is not to bait a bear but to seal your boots. Right

Sure, and you also might feel the need to cook some bacon and eggs for breakfast while sitting in your bear stand.  

[520backyard]

A guys gotta eat right.

[bobcat]

Yes and don't forget the donuts. 

[DeerThug]

OK so I posted earlier that my son Matthew had a bear come into hiscamp and got into his food box.  Not baiting in my opinion.  The bear got a box of Pop Tarts. A bag of Doritos - Cool Ranch Flavor. A 1 pound bag of individually wrapped Starburts and 1 bag of hot dog buns.  Matthew interrupted the feast when the bear was working on the box of Granola bars.  Chewey granola bars to be exact.  Check out this pic.  Base on the size of the canines this is a good bear/ AND a large black bear was missed last weekend near the food box incident.   Check out how far apart the teeth marks are compared to my hand...  And look how big around the theeth are..

I am heading up this weekend to take a crack at the biggen---

[markts]

Good luck to you-might try some calling or record the music from the icecreme wagon and play it loud

[brew]

im no expert but based on the pic if those are his canine's in the bottom of the box unless Vern Troyer is holding it the only thing that comes to mind is Chief Martin Brodie's quote from the movie Jaws...."you're gonna need a bigger boat (aka gun!)"  zoinks !

[DeerThug]

That is the canine holes.....

[boneaddict]

I almost offered to take Doublelung out last weekend to see if he wanted to shoot a bear.  I was busy with kids though.  Little did he know I was going to shove some huckleberryjam and peanut butter sandwiches in his pack.