Round-Up in Your Sandwich? Are our hoof-diseased elk eating Wonder Bread?

[pianoman9701]

Thanks John,
Roundup is used primarily as a weeder. Wheat is cured naturally in the sun late June early July.  We will spray roundup on a field to clear volunteer crops (wheat that was knocked down during harvest and has sprouted). Faster and more efficient to fly on after spring green up. Then plant whatever you wish, no residual. Mix Roundup with a broadleaf killer and Roundup will stick around keeping the driveway clear cause roundup is not selective in what it controls.  Monsanto is the Champion in plant genetics. Raising more with less. There are roundup ready crops that serve us well too.
We raise plenty of elk right here around the place. Havent seen any limping but they keep their heads down til after the 15th.
Tom

Thanks Tom. So correct me if I'm wrong, you're saying farmers in WA don't use the practice outlined in the article - spraying the standing wheat to hasten ripening a few days before they want to harvest it to make it easier or faster to harvest. If that's what you're saying, then maybe the author is referring to the country's breadbasket east of the Rockies. I'd like to think we do it better in WA.

I think what he's saying is it's used for weed control. Not a couple days before harvest to make it easier to harvest.

http://roundup.ca/_uploads/documents/MON-Preharvest%20Staging%20Guide.pdf

Check it out.

Preharvest is the best time for controlling Canada thistle, quackgrass,
perennial sowthistle, dandelion, toadflax, and milkweed.
A preharvest weed control application is an excellent management
strategy to not only control perennial weeds, but to facilitate
harvest management and get a head start on next year’s crop.

So, it's being sprayed for weed control on wheat that's almost ready to harvest. That's what the article was talking about. The reason for performing the spray is almost inconsequential. The result is that Round-Up is being sprayed on wheat just before it's being harvested for our food. What am I missing? I must be missing something. Otherwise, to control Canadian thistle and other weeds, why wouldn't you wait until after harvest to spray? Is it because the wheat stalks are all over the ground after harvest and the Round-Up can't get to the weeds?

[T Pearce]

Check it out.

Preharvest is the best time for controlling Canada thistle, quackgrass,
perennial sowthistle, dandelion, toadflax, and milkweed.
A preharvest weed control application is an excellent management
strategy to not only control perennial weeds, but to facilitate
harvest management and get a head start on next year’s crop.

Yes but if you have to spray the whole field you shouldn't have planted in the first place. Chemicals are expensive.
Combine around the weed patches that you went out on a 4 wheeler and treated last month.
I've personally knocked down a lot of wheat fighting Canada Thistle that's for sure. Have seen just the weed patches sprayed from the air too.
The greenies have a big hate with Monsanto and are using the term "Roundup ready" to further their cause (talk radio listener) They use the term Roundup ready in such a way that you can tell they don't have a firm grasp as to which they speak.
My BP skyrockets when I hear it and this Ladies and Gentlemen is why I should avoid the wolf thing with WDFW.
Junk science is just that "Junk"
Thanks
Tom

[pianoman9701]

I really appreciate your input Tom. Thanks. Cigar and drink time! See you all. I agree about the wolves. 

[6x6in6]

I really appreciate your input Tom. Thanks. Cigar and drink time! See you all. I agree about the wolves. 

Have a sandwich on whole wheat too.   

[T Pearce]

Denali's license is current (His avatar) and mine isn't. chemical use can change. SO...... with that said, I would like to rely on his testimony from here on.
Thanks buddy, I hope I didn't ruin it for you 
T

[T Pearce]

Heck ya!
Beer thirty!
I have a great sourdough bread recipe if anyone would like it. (I doubt it's local grain that I use, Bought at Walmart so it's probably laced with rodenticide direct from CHINA)
Cheers
Tom

[denali]

Denali's license is current (His avatar) and mine isn't. chemical use can change. SO...... with that said, I would like to rely on his testimony from here on.
Thanks buddy, I hope I didn't ruin it for you 
T

    This herbicide discussion is a lot like work     I come here for the big bucks and brite fish !

[idahohuntr]

Junk science is just that "Junk"

Couldn't agree more...when I see folks with a limited understanding of an issue try to make cause and effect statements its always concerning. 

[T Pearce]

Oh yeh... 594 is the latest
T
Ps probably something new since then.

[jackelope]

Thanks John,
Roundup is used primarily as a weeder. Wheat is cured naturally in the sun late June early July.  We will spray roundup on a field to clear volunteer crops (wheat that was knocked down during harvest and has sprouted). Faster and more efficient to fly on after spring green up. Then plant whatever you wish, no residual. Mix Roundup with a broadleaf killer and Roundup will stick around keeping the driveway clear cause roundup is not selective in what it controls.  Monsanto is the Champion in plant genetics. Raising more with less. There are roundup ready crops that serve us well too.
We raise plenty of elk right here around the place. Havent seen any limping but they keep their heads down til after the 15th.
Tom

Thanks Tom. So correct me if I'm wrong, you're saying farmers in WA don't use the practice outlined in the article - spraying the standing wheat to hasten ripening a few days before they want to harvest it to make it easier or faster to harvest. If that's what you're saying, then maybe the author is referring to the country's breadbasket east of the Rockies. I'd like to think we do it better in WA.

I think what he's saying is it's used for weed control. Not a couple days before harvest to make it easier to harvest.

http://roundup.ca/_uploads/documents/MON-Preharvest%20Staging%20Guide.pdf

Check it out.

Preharvest is the best time for controlling Canada thistle, quackgrass,
perennial sowthistle, dandelion, toadflax, and milkweed.
A preharvest weed control application is an excellent management
strategy to not only control perennial weeds, but to facilitate
harvest management and get a head start on next year’s crop.

So, it's being sprayed for weed control on wheat that's almost ready to harvest. That's what the article was talking about. The reason for performing the spray is almost inconsequential. The result is that Round-Up is being sprayed on wheat just before it's being harvested for our food. What am I missing? I must be missing something. Otherwise, to control Canadian thistle and other weeds, why wouldn't you wait until after harvest to spray? Is it because the wheat stalks are all over the ground after harvest and the Round-Up can't get to the weeds?

Probably not as most of the wheat stubble I've seen gets bailed(off the ground) after harvest.
 

[T Pearce]

Thanks John,
Roundup is used primarily as a weeder. Wheat is cured naturally in the sun late June early July.  We will spray roundup on a field to clear volunteer crops (wheat that was knocked down during harvest and has sprouted). Faster and more efficient to fly on after spring green up. Then plant whatever you wish, no residual. Mix Roundup with a broadleaf killer and Roundup will stick around keeping the driveway clear cause roundup is not selective in what it controls.  Monsanto is the Champion in plant genetics. Raising more with less. There are roundup ready crops that serve us well too.
We raise plenty of elk right here around the place. Havent seen any limping but they keep their heads down til after the 15th.
Tom

Thanks Tom. So correct me if I'm wrong, you're saying farmers in WA don't use the practice outlined in the article - spraying the standing wheat to hasten ripening a few days before they want to harvest it to make it easier or faster to harvest. If that's what you're saying, then maybe the author is referring to the country's breadbasket east of the Rockies. I'd like to think we do it better in WA.

I think what he's saying is it's used for weed control. Not a couple days before harvest to make it easier to harvest.

http://roundup.ca/_uploads/documents/MON-Preharvest%20Staging%20Guide.pdf

Check it out.

Preharvest is the best time for controlling Canada thistle, quackgrass,
perennial sowthistle, dandelion, toadflax, and milkweed.
A preharvest weed control application is an excellent management
strategy to not only control perennial weeds, but to facilitate
harvest management and get a head start on next year’s crop.

So, it's being sprayed for weed control on wheat that's almost ready to harvest. That's what the article was talking about. The reason for performing the spray is almost inconsequential. The result is that Round-Up is being sprayed on wheat just before it's being harvested for our food. What am I missing? I must be missing something. Otherwise, to control Canadian thistle and other weeds, why wouldn't you wait until after harvest to spray? Is it because the wheat stalks are all over the ground after harvest and the Round-Up can't get to the weeds?

Probably not as most of the wheat stubble I've seen gets bailed(off the ground) after harvest.
 

Spraying the whole field for this would be a poor pratice...... way too much money.
I have friends in the bus not living that large and barely hanging on.
Luckily there is a market for wheat straw (baled stubble) and weedy first and second cuttings of hay.

[Special T]

Im gluelton intolerant and no longer eat wheat or drink beer. I can tell you that what sparks my interest in this is the fact that probles with wheat is realitivley new. As with any search, the discovery process is trying to connect the dotts that May be just coincidental. I will try and some some research as to if certain important dates coinside.

[JJB11B]

Thanks John,
Roundup is used primarily as a weeder. Wheat is cured naturally in the sun late June early July.  We will spray roundup on a field to clear volunteer crops (wheat that was knocked down during harvest and has sprouted). Faster and more efficient to fly on after spring green up. Then plant whatever you wish, no residual. Mix Roundup with a broadleaf killer and Roundup will stick around keeping the driveway clear cause roundup is not selective in what it controls.  Monsanto is the Champion in plant genetics. Raising more with less. There are roundup ready crops that serve us well too.
We raise plenty of elk right here around the place. Havent seen any limping but they keep their heads down til after the 15th.
Tom

Thanks Tom. So correct me if I'm wrong, you're saying farmers in WA don't use the practice outlined in the article - spraying the standing wheat to hasten ripening a few days before they want to harvest it to make it easier or faster to harvest. If that's what you're saying, then maybe the author is referring to the country's breadbasket east of the Rockies. I'd like to think we do it better in WA.

I have worked on a few mid sized wheat ranches in SE WA. and have never seen Round-UP used to kill wheat stalks. We use round up and 2-4-D to kill weeds after harvest. In fact the only time I see round up used is on fallow fields I don't know anyone that sprays roundup on planted wheat.

[T Pearce]

Im gluelton intolerant and no longer eat wheat or drink beer. I can tell you that what sparks my interest in this is the fact that probles with wheat is realitivley new. As with any search, the discovery process is trying to connect the dotts that May be just coincidental. I will try and some some research as to if certain important dates coinside.

Life without beer. How bad was the reaction to gluten?

[motg9_6]

The same with fruit vegetables etc if a herbicide or pesticide is applied it can't be harvested for a certain period of time. There are classes farmers have to take before they can purchase the product to apply.