Round-Up in Your Sandwich? Are our hoof-diseased elk eating Wonder Bread?

[pianoman9701]

Farmers routinely use Round-up just days before wheat harvest to kill the wheat stalks and make them easier to harvest, thus exposing us to glyphosate (the active ingredient in Round-Up) in our wheat. Isn't that special? In addition, this article suggests that there's no such thing as a gluten allergy, but that the problems people are having with wheat are actually a response to ingesting the glyphosate. The reaction that humans have to glyphosate could explain a correlation between it's use on clear cuts and the breakdown of the immune system in elk.

http://www.thehealthyhomeeconomist.com/real-reason-for-toxic-wheat-its-not-gluten/

"Roundup significantly disrupts the functioning of beneficial bacteria in the gut and contributes to permeability of the intestinal wall and consequent expression of autoimmune disease symptoms."

Stop eating wheat products and stop ignoring the use of glyphosate on our forests. It's bad for us and it's bad for the elk.

[Boss .300 winmag]

When I was younger Malathion was sprayed on wheat as we put it into the elevators to kill bugs. 

http://npic.orst.edu/factsheets/malagen.html

[DRobnsn]

Reminds me of a story. A good friend and previous co worker (from Canada) told me about the farmers in Canada using diluted round up sprayed from the planes to grow and harvest all kinds of vegetation for human consumption. I don't know if its common knowledge in Canada but I believe he found out from knowing many of the local small time pilots.

   

[idahohuntr]

Farmers routinely use Round-up just days before wheat harvest to kill the wheat stalks and make them easier to harvest, thus exposing us to glyphosate (the active ingredient in Round-Up) in our wheat. Isn't that special? In addition, this article suggests that there's no such thing as a gluten allergy, but that the problems people are having with wheat are actually a response to ingesting the glyphosate. The reaction that humans have to glyphosate could explain a correlation between it's use on clear cuts and the breakdown of the immune system in elk.

http://www.thehealthyhomeeconomist.com/real-reason-for-toxic-wheat-its-not-gluten/

"Roundup significantly disrupts the functioning of beneficial bacteria in the gut and contributes to permeability of the intestinal wall and consequent expression of autoimmune disease symptoms."

Stop eating wheat products and stop ignoring the use of glyphosate on our forests. It's bad for us and it's bad for the elk.

Really?    So how does that statement fit with observations of hoof disease in SE Wa where elk, round-up use, and wheat production are off the charts?

[T Pearce]

Farmers routinely use Round-up just days before wheat harvest to kill the wheat stalks and make them easier to harvest, thus exposing us to glyphosate (the active ingredient in Round-Up) in our wheat. Isn't that special? In addition, this article suggests that there's no such thing as a gluten allergy, but that the problems people are having with wheat are actually a response to ingesting the glyphosate. The reaction that humans have to glyphosate could explain a correlation between it's use on clear cuts and the breakdown of the immune system in elk.

http://www.thehealthyhomeeconomist.com/real-reason-for-toxic-wheat-its-not-gluten/

"Roundup significantly disrupts the functioning of beneficial bacteria in the gut and contributes to permeability of the intestinal wall and consequent expression of autoimmune disease symptoms."

Stop eating wheat products and stop ignoring the use of glyphosate on our forests. It's bad for us and it's bad for the elk.

That is not how round up is used.
Decided not to post what im really thinking here....
 

[pianoman9701]

Farmers routinely use Round-up just days before wheat harvest to kill the wheat stalks and make them easier to harvest, thus exposing us to glyphosate (the active ingredient in Round-Up) in our wheat. Isn't that special? In addition, this article suggests that there's no such thing as a gluten allergy, but that the problems people are having with wheat are actually a response to ingesting the glyphosate. The reaction that humans have to glyphosate could explain a correlation between it's use on clear cuts and the breakdown of the immune system in elk.

http://www.thehealthyhomeeconomist.com/real-reason-for-toxic-wheat-its-not-gluten/

"Roundup significantly disrupts the functioning of beneficial bacteria in the gut and contributes to permeability of the intestinal wall and consequent expression of autoimmune disease symptoms."

Stop eating wheat products and stop ignoring the use of glyphosate on our forests. It's bad for us and it's bad for the elk.

That is not how round up is used.
Decided not to post what im really thinking here....

You should post what you're really thinking. If you have information that what was said in this article isn't true, I'd like to hear it instead of disseminating false information. But to just say "this is not how Round-up is used" and then say nothing to help us understand what you mean...doesn't give us anything to go on.

[jackelope]

Farmers routinely use Round-up just days before wheat harvest to kill the wheat stalks and make them easier to harvest, thus exposing us to glyphosate (the active ingredient in Round-Up) in our wheat. Isn't that special? In addition, this article suggests that there's no such thing as a gluten allergy, but that the problems people are having with wheat are actually a response to ingesting the glyphosate. The reaction that humans have to glyphosate could explain a correlation between it's use on clear cuts and the breakdown of the immune system in elk.

http://www.thehealthyhomeeconomist.com/real-reason-for-toxic-wheat-its-not-gluten/

"Roundup significantly disrupts the functioning of beneficial bacteria in the gut and contributes to permeability of the intestinal wall and consequent expression of autoimmune disease symptoms."

Stop eating wheat products and stop ignoring the use of glyphosate on our forests. It's bad for us and it's bad for the elk.

That is not how round up is used.
Decided not to post what im really thinking here....

You should post what you're really thinking. If you have information that what was said in this article isn't true, I'd like to hear it instead of disseminating false information. But to just say "this is not how Round-up is used" and then say nothing to help us understand what you mean...doesn't give us anything to go on.

I think it's pretty close to how it's used.

I don't see how Roundup's application on wheat has any correlation to hoof rot in SW Washington.
 

[T Pearce]

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[T Pearce]

Thanks John,
Roundup is used primarily as a weeder. Wheat is cured naturally in the sun late June early July.  We will spray roundup on a field to clear volunteer crops (wheat that was knocked down during harvest and has sprouted). Faster and more efficient to fly on after spring green up. Then plant whatever you wish, no residual. Mix Roundup with a broadleaf killer and Roundup will stick around keeping the driveway clear cause roundup is not selective in what it controls.  Monsanto is the Champion in plant genetics. Raising more with less. There are roundup ready crops that serve us well too.
We raise plenty of elk right here around the place. Havent seen any limping but they keep their heads down til after the 15th.
Tom

[pianoman9701]

Farmers routinely use Round-up just days before wheat harvest to kill the wheat stalks and make them easier to harvest, thus exposing us to glyphosate (the active ingredient in Round-Up) in our wheat. Isn't that special? In addition, this article suggests that there's no such thing as a gluten allergy, but that the problems people are having with wheat are actually a response to ingesting the glyphosate. The reaction that humans have to glyphosate could explain a correlation between it's use on clear cuts and the breakdown of the immune system in elk.

http://www.thehealthyhomeeconomist.com/real-reason-for-toxic-wheat-its-not-gluten/

"Roundup significantly disrupts the functioning of beneficial bacteria in the gut and contributes to permeability of the intestinal wall and consequent expression of autoimmune disease symptoms."

Stop eating wheat products and stop ignoring the use of glyphosate on our forests. It's bad for us and it's bad for the elk.

That is not how round up is used.
Decided not to post what im really thinking here....

You should post what you're really thinking. If you have information that what was said in this article isn't true, I'd like to hear it instead of disseminating false information. But to just say "this is not how Round-up is used" and then say nothing to help us understand what you mean...doesn't give us anything to go on.

I think it's pretty close to how it's used.

I don't see how Roundup's application on wheat has any correlation to hoof rot in SW Washington.
 

Did you read the article, Jackelope? The timber companies use Round-up on the clearcuts. The article states that studies show that Round-up breaks down the immune system. Many people, Dr. Boone Mora among them, feel that the reason the elk are sick, whether from hoof disease or with deformed antler and bone growth, are because of a breakdown in their immune system. I was merely making a statement that if what the author says is true about Round-Up being sprayed on wheat a few days before harvest, we may be experiencing a similar breakdown of our immune systems by consuming it.

[pianoman9701]

Thanks John,
Roundup is used primarily as a weeder. Wheat is cured naturally in the sun late June early July.  We will spray roundup on a field to clear volunteer crops (wheat that was knocked down during harvest and has sprouted). Faster and more efficient to fly on after spring green up. Then plant whatever you wish, no residual. Mix Roundup with a broadleaf killer and Roundup will stick around keeping the driveway clear cause roundup is not selective in what it controls.  Monsanto is the Champion in plant genetics. Raising more with less. There are roundup ready crops that serve us well too.
We raise plenty of elk right here around the place. Havent seen any limping but they keep their heads down til after the 15th.
Tom

Thanks Tom. So correct me if I'm wrong, you're saying farmers in WA don't use the practice outlined in the article - spraying the standing wheat to hasten ripening a few days before they want to harvest it to make it easier or faster to harvest. If that's what you're saying, then maybe the author is referring to the country's breadbasket east of the Rockies. I'd like to think we do it better in WA.

[jackelope]

I guess I was trying to see the relationship...

[jackelope]

Thanks John,
Roundup is used primarily as a weeder. Wheat is cured naturally in the sun late June early July.  We will spray roundup on a field to clear volunteer crops (wheat that was knocked down during harvest and has sprouted). Faster and more efficient to fly on after spring green up. Then plant whatever you wish, no residual. Mix Roundup with a broadleaf killer and Roundup will stick around keeping the driveway clear cause roundup is not selective in what it controls.  Monsanto is the Champion in plant genetics. Raising more with less. There are roundup ready crops that serve us well too.
We raise plenty of elk right here around the place. Havent seen any limping but they keep their heads down til after the 15th.
Tom

Thanks Tom. So correct me if I'm wrong, you're saying farmers in WA don't use the practice outlined in the article - spraying the standing wheat to hasten ripening a few days before they want to harvest it to make it easier or faster to harvest. If that's what you're saying, then maybe the author is referring to the country's breadbasket east of the Rockies. I'd like to think we do it better in WA.

I think what he's saying is it's used for weed control. Not a couple days before harvest to make it easier to harvest.

http://roundup.ca/_uploads/documents/MON-Preharvest%20Staging%20Guide.pdf

Check it out.

Preharvest is the best time for controlling Canada thistle, quackgrass,
perennial sowthistle, dandelion, toadflax, and milkweed.
A preharvest weed control application is an excellent management
strategy to not only control perennial weeds, but to facilitate
harvest management and get a head start on next year’s crop.

[pianoman9701]

I guess I was trying to see the relationship...

My post is more about a causative relationship between the practice outlined in the article and some of the severe problems we have in the US with so-called gluten. I had a conversation with my brother last night regarding "poisonous wheat". He was talking about the very same concerns and has completely cut wheat out of his diet. He's noticed great positive changes in his health after having done so two years ago. This guy is 60 running triathlons and half Iron Man things. When i saw this on FB this morning, it was pretty interesting to see. The only thing this has to do with elk is the link of glyphosate as a common factor.

[denali]

Roundup pre-harvest is a labeled application, but is most commonly used as a rescue treatment, example -  weeds are out of control, and both the crop and weeds need to be dried down to run through the combine.

I wont speak to other areas of the country but in the PNW irrigated and dryland, I don't think it is a widely used practice.