"Marijuana cards, gun ownership combination remain a legal risk"

[huntrights]

"Marijuana cards, gun ownership combination remain a legal risk"

http://www.nraila.org/news-issues/in-the-news/2014/11/marijuana-cards,-gun-ownership-combination-remain-a-legal-risk.aspx

[timberfaller]

And I hope it stays that way.

Had to help a local GW tear down a hunting camp because of a fatality cause by a breakfast of wackie tobackie!!

If you think booze and guns don't mix,  neither does POT and guns.

[bigtex]

Unfortunately federal prosecutors don't blink a eye at simple possession of marijuana and firearm cases. It's got to be a lot of marijuana, and typically a criminal history.

Another one of those gun laws that's on the books but rarely prosecuted for. 

[Bean Counter]

Some of the pack mules in southern Arizona are arrested with hundreds of pounds of pot, and only get prosecuted with simple possession instead of possession with intent to distribute. There's even a statute for importation that is rarely used.   

[huntrights]

People need to be aware.  Just because an initiative passed by the voters makes marijuana "legal" in Washington doesn't make it legal at the federal level or in other states.  Remember I-594 was passed by initiative as well; we now have to fight that unjust and misguided law via the judicial and legislative processes.

Excerpt from the article:
http://www.fresnobee.com/2014/11/13/4233788_marijuana-cards-gun-ownership.html?rh=1

"As the use of marijuana gains acceptance for both recreational and medicinal use, owners and buyers of firearms should be aware that the federal government still doesn’t believe the two should mix, according to authorities in both fields. They add that the chance of prosecution for a federal felony, while not highly probable, is nothing to take lightly.

The experts cite question 11(e) of the federal Firearms Transaction Record, which asks gun buyers whether he or she is “an unlawful user of, or addicted to, marijuana or any depressant, stimulant, narcotic drug or any other controlled substance.” They also refer to a Sept. 21, 2011 letter from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives to federal firearms licensees, which states that there “are no exceptions in federal law for marijuana purportedly used for medicinal purposes, even if it is sanctioned by state law.”

Possession of a marijuana card, such as those issued to marijuana users under Proposition 215, California’s Compassionate Care Act, could prove legally problematic for anyone who answers “no” to question 11(e), according to Sam Paredes of Gun Owners of California.

“If you get a medical marijuana card and buy a firearm and fill out the form, you are committing a felony and could lose your gun rights for life,” says Paredes"

[magnanimous_j]

And I hope it stays that way.

So you approve of denying gun rights to people who do things that you personally don’t approve of?

Conservatives: Party of small government!*

*Unless we can use it to push people around.

[Fl0und3rz]

And I hope it stays that way.

So you approve of denying gun rights to people who do things that you personally don’t approve of?

Conservatives: Party of small government!*

*Unless we can use it to push people around.

I don't know about Timberfallers' personal feelings or motivations, but that's a nice logical fallacy there, jumping from one person's vague comment to impugning all of conservatism.  You may now go to your local DNC office and collect your cookie. 

[fly-by]

 Does merely having the card prove that you:    1) Purchased from a dispensary 2)Consumed?

[magnanimous_j]

And I hope it stays that way.

So you approve of denying gun rights to people who do things that you personally don’t approve of?

Conservatives: Party of small government!*

*Unless we can use it to push people around.

I don't know about Timberfallers' personal feelings or motivations, but that's a nice logical fallacy there, jumping from one person's vague comment to impugning all of conservatism.  You may now go to your local DNC office and collect your cookie.

Nah. It's oatmeal raisin today.

I've read enough of his posts to get a bead on him. Just another under-informed right winger hate-drunk on AM radio. Read his posts for yourself. I'm not wrong.

[Fl0und3rz]

If you are at all concerned, you need to be intimately familiar with this.

https://www.atf.gov/files/press/releases/2011/09/092611-atf-open-letter-to-all-ffls-marijuana-for-medicinal-purposes.pdf

. . . especially now that the I-594 advocates have now made it their business to impede your right to self-defense or imprison you on federal felony firearms or perjury charges.


Mag_j - as usual, you miss the point.  An appropriate objection was not to all of conservatism, but to Timberfaller's comment.  Yes, you were wrong to implicate all of conservatism.

[magnanimous_j]

Mag_j - as usual, you miss the point.  An appropriate objection was not to all of conservatism, but to Timberfaller's comment.  Yes, you were wrong to implicate all of conservatism.

Fine, Timberfaller, your comment was illogical. Furthermore, I find your entire worldview to be centered on fear and spite.

However, this particular hypocrisy (Government overreach is the worst thing in the world, but it’s ok if used against things I don’t like) is common within those who self-identify as conservatives, so I thought it was worth bringing attention to.

[Fl0und3rz]

Mag_j - as usual, you miss the point.  An appropriate objection was not to all of conservatism, but to Timberfaller's comment.  Yes, you were wrong to implicate all of conservatism.

Fine, Timberfaller, your comment was illogical. Furthermore, I find your entire worldview to be centered on fear and spite.

However, this particular hypocrisy (Government overreach is the worst thing in the world, but it’s ok if used against things I don’t like) is common within those who self-identify as liberals and conservatives, so I thought it was worth bringing attention to.

Better.  Did you check out the GruberGate video?  Do you endorse fraud on your fellow Americans, a la I-594, to achieve one's political ends?   

[magnanimous_j]

I don’t have speakers on my work computer, so I didn’t watch the video (nor have I ever heard of grubergate until I read that post). I’ll check it out when I get home.

[Fl0und3rz]

Glad to help keep you informed.  Stay well.

[timberfaller]

"So you approve of denying gun rights to people who do things that you personally don’t approve of?"

Wow! Ya took a big strrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrretch in making a assumption there!

Anything that is "mind altering" DOES NOT make for a good mix around firearms PERIOD.  Its called being SAFE.

Even in that statement, how can one draw that I am for denying people's Rights!!  Which I am not, you have all the right in this world to act stupid.

Liberalism nor Conservatism is not the issue here. 

There is a reason why there are Darwin Awards!!

"I'm not wrong." Oooooooh but you ARE!