I used them for years and had some extras. I'm glad somèbody can put them to use. They really penetrate since they cut to the tip. The trick is sharpening them but they'll shave your arm if you do it right. I believe part of the satisfaction you get from hunting and outdoor sports comes from developing some do it yourself skills hence broad head sharpening, cutting your own meat, fly tying, and dozens more of these tasks have always added to my enjoyment. Some people just pay the other guy to do it, which there's nothing wrong with, but they miss out on some enjoyment and satisfaction too.