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Re: 22-250 bullets falling through casings.
« Reply #15 on: December 11, 2014, 06:31:49 PM »
My 22-250 bullets tend to fall through or near animals.... :sry:
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Re: 22-250 bullets falling through casings.
« Reply #16 on: December 11, 2014, 06:54:19 PM »
Im very happy with their customer service right now! ill only buy RCBS now because of their customer service! And jjb11b my bullets usually fall through animals too when my bullets are actually able to fly through my gun  :tup:

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Re: 22-250 bullets falling through casings.
« Reply #17 on: December 11, 2014, 07:11:49 PM »
Most brass comes with the mouth and necks so beat up you almost need to run it through some type of die to get the necks round.  Using the bullet to uniform and round out the necks as your seating it, probably isn't the best way to go.  I only use Lapua brass and on occasion I'll get a few with flat spots on the mouth.

I don't like the button so I take them out of all my dies.  Instead, I use an expander mandrel die that straightens the necks and makes them round and uniform.  It slightly over sizes the neck and then I neck size to whatever neck tension I choose with my bushing die.

If I were you, I would pull the button out of your FL die, take one of the cases you've shot and run it through your FL die without the button in, then seat a bullet and see if that fixes your problem.  If it does, you'll know the button is the problem.  If it doesn't, well, that new button they're sending you won't change anything.

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Re: 22-250 bullets falling through casings.
« Reply #18 on: December 11, 2014, 09:36:48 PM »
not seating too deep I start with the die raised and press the bullet to see where it ends up seated then make adjustments from there. I want to say its a bad set RCBS dies. But who knows I could have a faulty set of dies.


I had a bad set of RCBS .300 WSM dies once. Same issue, called and explained it to them and they recognized the problem right away. Didn't even ask for the faulty set back and shipped me a new set. Awful hard to seat a little 22-250 bullet too deep. I have run across that issue with several wildcats I reload with custom bullets but far and few between.

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Re: 22-250 bullets falling through casings.
« Reply #19 on: December 11, 2014, 11:08:03 PM »
Yeah I believe its the dies, because my measurements on the bullets is right where they need to be and its not shoving the bullets all the way through into the powder, they come out of the press looking the way they should just must be lose enough the vibrations from traveling from my reloading bench to the range is causing the bullets to fall through into the powder.

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Re: 22-250 bullets falling through casings.
« Reply #20 on: December 12, 2014, 02:17:44 AM »
I realize they are sending you a new one but you could chuck the old one up in a drill and polish it down  .001" or 2 till it works properly.  I always like to polish up my expander balls with flitz and steel wool. But I bet if you use some 800grit first you could have a back up or if you ever decided to play with neck tension.  Trick I learned from catshooter @PM
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Re: 22-250 bullets falling through casings.
« Reply #21 on: December 12, 2014, 08:17:58 AM »
I always wonder about a company that is known for their CS, I rather do business with a company that you don't have to use it.  Just from this post RCBS has sent out a lot of bad dies.
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Re: 22-250 bullets falling through casings.
« Reply #22 on: December 12, 2014, 09:19:43 AM »
I think it's great that they are sending you a new die but looking at it from a business stand point I don't understand why the CS rep was so quick to send out a whole new die if all he thought was wrong was the expander button.  Why not have you take it out and try it to see if that really is the problem.  Just doesn't seem like a smart business model to me.

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Re: 22-250 bullets falling through casings.
« Reply #23 on: December 12, 2014, 09:24:43 AM »
I always wonder about a company that is known for their CS, I rather do business with a company that you don't have to use it.  Just from this post RCBS has sent out a lot of bad dies.

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From this thread, I'd be nervous about buying RCBS dies.  I have several myself, but it sounds like their quality has gone downhill............ :dunno:
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Re: 22-250 bullets falling through casings.
« Reply #24 on: December 12, 2014, 02:57:29 PM »
I understand what you guys are saying and im not going to argue the fact the their products could be going downhill in quality it seems to me that almost everything now days is made with less quality, and maybe the cs knows that they have some bad products, but them taking care of me and sending me a new set is better than me going to the store and paying 50$ for another set in my opinion. If the set they are sending me now does the same thing then ill tinker with them until i can figure it out or ill go to a different brand of dies.

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Re: 22-250 bullets falling through casings.
« Reply #25 on: December 12, 2014, 08:16:21 PM »
Compared to the total amount of RCBS dies sold, it's nothing. They have a solid record and obviously a solid buisness model.  They have been in buisness long before most on this site and from the looks of it. They will still be in buisness long after most of us are gone.

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Re: 22-250 bullets falling through casings.
« Reply #26 on: December 12, 2014, 09:48:50 PM »
+1 No such thing as "perfection" it's strived for in many industries,truth is substandard parts slip through the cracks,perhaps an automated machine puked out a shifts worth of .002+ sized parts,which got mixed in with 20 other machines +/- 0 parts and the tech check station sampled 5% of the parts,those large parts are going to be like lottery tickets,you have to grab the right one.The GOOD part of the buisness is they stand behind their product and quickly correct mistakes.... no questions asked.Throw an underpaid human in the mix and it may very well be that someone didn't measure the parts before they chucked em together,a hangover and the mentality of "Why measure,the last 4 days worth have been spec" may very well be the issue.
Compared to the total amount of RCBS dies sold, it's nothing. They have a solid record and obviously a solid buisness model.  They have been in buisness long before most on this site and from the looks of it. They will still be in buisness long after most of us are gone.

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Re: 22-250 bullets falling through casings.
« Reply #27 on: December 14, 2014, 04:50:16 PM »
I agree  :tup:

 


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