Barnes LRX performance

[predatorpro]

this is like saying a target tipped arrow will kill a deer as well as an arrow with a broadhead... and i prefer to watch my deer hit the dirt the second that bullet hits it...of course a fmj will kill a deer...a 22lr will kill a deer...you just increase your chances of never finding it...id love to see a side by side shot of 2 coyotes get shot in the shoulder....one with a fmj and one with a ballistic tip bullet and tell me there is no difference...

[The scout]

Shooters fail much more often than bullets do.

Any bullet can fail. Every popular bullet make ever produced has failed. Sure, some have probably "failed" more often than others but it's usually the shooter to blame.

Too many hunters look at very small sample sizes to draw conclusions: "I shot a deer with brand x bullet and it was DRT"; "I shot an elk with brand y bullet and it ran off."

There are lots of bullets to choose from, with different performance characteristiscs. Choose the bullet you and your rifle like and go hunting.

Agreed Bob33. A hole in the right spot kills game. Period. An Accubond thru a deers nose is obviously less lethal than an FMJ through both lungs..

But this discussion is a yearly thing  Nosler vs Barnes vs Hornady. Vs etc.......makes for fun reading on a winter's day!

that's true unless said bullets are shot from a tikka with a piece of junk vortex

[magnanimous_j]

I wonder if other hobbies have these same online arguments

Guy 1: “All-Clad are great pans”
Guy 2: “Yeah, if you’re on welfare or a migrant worker. You have to get Calphalon, .05% better heat retention, bro.”
Guy 3: “My brother-in-law went to college with a guy whose Calphalon exploded in his face. He looks like a sausage monster now. I would never let my kids near one.”
Guy 4: “Any pan in the world goes to crap when the cook frosts it with a cheap spatula!”
Guy 2: “ANY PAN CAN HAVE FAILURES! Google, “All-Clad turned my omelet into live snakes. 22k hits.”
Guy 5: “RON PAUL!”

[Woodchuck]

What about the elitist Trad pan guys?   

[mountainman]

Now that's better! Got a chuckle over reading that post! So true lol!

[Bob33]

As Marshawn would say, "thanks for asking."

[VarmintVentilator]

that's true unless said bullets are shot from a tikka with a piece of junk vortex

  Hey I like Tikka's and junky Vortex.   

[predatorpro]

that's true unless said bullets are shot from a tikka with a piece of junk vortex

  Hey I like Tikka's and junky Vortex.   

[bearpaw]

Just dropped a cow elk yesterday in her footprints at about 610 yards with 160 gr TTSX. Bullet went through the animal as usual.

160?  Did you get the Lapua or is that from a 340?

It was a 340 and they are traveling at about 3450 fps. I am still experimenting with that idea I told you about, Barnes bullets performing better in lightweight bullets at high velocity for the caliber. I shot and the elk dropped without taking a step, same as the bear I told you about a year ago. The tough thing is that you rarely recover a Barnes bullet to look it over. Probably any bullet designed for big game would have killed the elk.

For the OP, I think there is a topic on this forum a year or so ago and the hunter was disappointed in the LRX, you will need to dig a little to find it. I have bought some and plan to use them eventually to see how they do.

Like many other hand loaders, I have most brands of bullets on my shelf, they will all kill when placed correctly. 

[RadSav]

It was a 340 and they are traveling at about 3450 fps. I am still experimenting with that idea I told you about, Barnes bullets performing better in lightweight bullets at high velocity for the caliber. I shot and the elk dropped without taking a step, same as the bear I told you about a year ago. The tough thing is that you rarely recover a Barnes bullet to look it over. Probably any bullet designed for big game would have killed the elk.

Do you have an idea of what speed at target was?  The ballisticians I have talked with all agree that Barnes is best above 2,600 fps.  All agreed the TTSX gave more room for error but still drop rapidly in efficiency once you break the 2,400 mark.

[Bob33]

The rap against Barnes bullets is that they do not consistently expand.

A .284" bullet that doubles in diameter would be a little over 1/2 inch. A bullet that doesn't expand at all would be .284". Punching a .284" hole in two lungs, along with the corresponding hydrostatic shock will kill most any big game animal.

[Biggerhammer]

The rap against Barnes bullets is that they do not consistently expand.

A .284" bullet that doubles in diameter would be a little over 1/2 inch. A bullet that doesn't expand at all would be .284". Punching a .284" hole in two lungs, along with the corresponding hydrostatic shock will kill most any big game animal.

In that case just buy military surplus 7mm FMJ's in bulk and save yourself the fancy packing from Barnes.

[jay.sharkbait]

The rap against Barnes bullets is that they do not consistently expand.

A .284" bullet that doubles in diameter would be a little over 1/2 inch. A bullet that doesn't expand at all would be .284". Punching a .284" hole in two lungs, along with the corresponding hydrostatic shock will kill most any big game animal.

In that case just buy military surplus 7mm FMJ's in bulk and save yourself the fancy packing from Barnes.

The pulled milsurp might be more accurate

[Bob33]

The rap against Barnes bullets is that they do not consistently expand.

A .284" bullet that doubles in diameter would be a little over 1/2 inch. A bullet that doesn't expand at all would be .284". Punching a .284" hole in two lungs, along with the corresponding hydrostatic shock will kill most any big game animal.

In that case just buy military surplus 7mm FMJ's in bulk and save yourself the fancy packing from Barnes.

If Barnes bullets never expanded that would make sense, but they do in the vast majority of instances.

[kentrek]

It was a 340 and they are traveling at about 3450 fps. I am still experimenting with that idea I told you about, Barnes bullets performing better in lightweight bullets at high velocity for the caliber. I shot and the elk dropped without taking a step, same as the bear I told you about a year ago. The tough thing is that you rarely recover a Barnes bullet to look it over. Probably any bullet designed for big game would have killed the elk.

Do you have an idea of what speed at target was?  The ballisticians I have talked with all agree that Barnes is best above 2,600 fps.  All agreed the TTSX gave more room for error but still drop rapidly in efficiency once you break the 2,400 mark.

I wonder if this is because the copper is more malleable an expands more rapidly  creating more shock

It would be interesting to know how the temperature of each bullet affects performance