Washington lawmaker proposes moving wolves

[bobcat]

Why would we want wolves moved into areas they may not ever get to on their own? Stupid. I don't want any more money wasted on wolves than what has already been wasted. Wolves will go wherever they want on their own. They don't need our help.

If the wolf plan is determined to need changed in some way, then re-write it. I can't believe anyone would be in favor of this. Those that think it's a good idea, did you agree with what has been done by the USFWS in the past- moving wolves from Canada into Idaho, Montana, and Wyoming? If not, then why would you think this is okay?

To me it's a total waste of money, and the WDFW does not have extra ,money that just needs to be thrown away. If there's money for this then there's money to hire more enforcement officers and try to get poaching under control.

Obviously you are not too concerned about what happens to us in the NE until wolves are delisted, maybe if you shared in the many claimed benefits of wolves you would have a better understanding of why NE Washington residents are fed up and you would be more willing to help get them delisted! 

Sure I'm concerned, but that doesn't mean I want the state wasting money on moving wolves. If you're not aware, moving wildlife around is NOT cheap. Wolves are fully capable of moving themselves, with their own four feet.

[JimmyHoffa]

I don't want them.  I think a bill needs to be introduced to delist and drive them back to Canada.  But seeing as that isn't likely, why not move them around...sooner you get them killing pooches on Mt Si and eating AlPacas in Olympia, sooner you'll get public sentiment to shift and get some management. 

[iusmc2002]

Why would we want wolves moved into areas they may not ever get to on their own? Stupid. I don't want any more money wasted on wolves than what has already been wasted. Wolves will go wherever they want on their own. They don't need our help.

If the wolf plan is determined to need changed in some way, then re-write it. I can't believe anyone would be in favor of this. Those that think it's a good idea, did you agree with what has been done by the USFWS in the past- moving wolves from Canada into Idaho, Montana, and Wyoming? If not, then why would you think this is okay?

To me it's a total waste of money, and the WDFW does not have extra ,money that just needs to be thrown away. If there's money for this then there's money to hire more enforcement officers and try to get poaching under control.

Obviously you are not too concerned about what happens to us in the NE until wolves are delisted, maybe if you shared in the many claimed benefits of wolves you would have a better understanding of why NE Washington residents are fed up and you would be more willing to help get them delisted! 

Sure I'm concerned, but that doesn't mean I want the state wasting money on moving wolves. If you're not aware, moving wildlife around is NOT cheap. Wolves are fully capable of moving themselves, with their own four feet.

It doesn't have so much to do with MOVING the wolves, as SHARING the wolves with the people who really want them.  That's what his last bill was about, and that is exactly what this is about.  His area is affected by it, and is doing what the majority of his constituents what.

[JimmyHoffa]

Who says it would have to cost much?  I bet the ranchers in the NE would pay to trap and sedate even loan a few trailers for transport. 

[bobcat]

Who says it would have to cost much?  I bet the ranchers in the NE would pay to trap and sedate even loan a few trailers for transport. 

Just going by what Dave Ware says, I'd say it would cost plenty.  How much does it cost to do studies for "years?"

At a work session Thursday, Ware told the House Agriculture and Natural Resources Committee that moving wolves would require studying the environmental impacts. The studies would take years and by the time they were done, wolf recovery objectives would probably have been met, he said.

[huntnphool]

Why would we want wolves moved into areas they may not ever get to on their own? Stupid. I don't want any more money wasted on wolves than what has already been wasted. Wolves will go wherever they want on their own. They don't need our help.

If the wolf plan is determined to need changed in some way, then re-write it. I can't believe anyone would be in favor of this. Those that think it's a good idea, did you agree with what has been done by the USFWS in the past- moving wolves from Canada into Idaho, Montana, and Wyoming? If not, then why would you think this is okay?

To me it's a total waste of money, and the WDFW does not have extra ,money that just needs to be thrown away. If there's money for this then there's money to hire more enforcement officers and try to get poaching under control.

Obviously you are not too concerned about what happens to us in the NE until wolves are delisted, maybe if you shared in the many claimed benefits of wolves you would have a better understanding of why NE Washington residents are fed up and you would be more willing to help get them delisted! 

 Cut off our nose to spite our face? Brilliant!

[JimmyHoffa]

Who says it would have to cost much?  I bet the ranchers in the NE would pay to trap and sedate even loan a few trailers for transport. 

Just going by what Dave Ware says, I'd say it would cost plenty.  How much does it cost to do studies for "years?"

At a work session Thursday, Ware told the House Agriculture and Natural Resources Committee that moving wolves would require studying the environmental impacts. The studies would take years and by the time they were done, wolf recovery objectives would probably have been met, he said.

Interesting thing is that the feds--USFWS and NPS did studies already for a few areas, with all the environmental/economic/cultural issues addressed. 

[Bob33]

Hey Dave, open up. It's your buddy from the eastside.

[BOWHUNTER45]

Hunting is the best tool for controlling wildlife ..all other option are useless ..They love to waste our money on all these studies which usually mean nothing unless you graduated from Harvard and was taught by a greenie 

[KFhunter]

Who says it would have to cost much?  I bet the ranchers in the NE would pay to trap and sedate even loan a few trailers for transport. 

I got one,  if someone will fill it I'll haul it on my dime.

[Curly]

If wdfw transplants wolves and some kid were to be killed, do you think they'd be setup for a lawsuit?

I serious doubt wolves will ever find their way to the Olympic Peninsula on their own. I sure wouldn't want them to get help finding their way there. 

As far as hoof rot elk goes, maybe wolves would be OK in those areas if canines can die from the bacteria that are affecting the elk.....

[bobcat]

The proposed law is needless, since the wolf plan already allows the WDFW to move wolves if they choose to do so.

Thankfully, they don't want to.

[jasnt]

I'd bet It could be paid for by donations alone!

[jasnt]

I'd bet the soft release will be the most expensive part

[KFhunter]

I'd bet the soft release will be the most expensive part

I heard if you blind fold them, spin them around and around until their good and dizzy they won't find their way home.