HB 1627 Unlawful Removal of Wildlife Parts from Private Property

[bigtex]

All about extraction of $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

  The creative minds of wdfw working on sources of revenue.............its all about revenue.

This was brought forward by a random Republican Representative NOT WDFW.

[Elkaholic daWg]

Someone needs to tell the legislators that there's free food, alcohol, and sex in Syria so they'll leave this state and quit trying to steal our money!

Don't remember blaming DFW exclusively.......

[floatinghat]

If there is no additional penalty, how does this differ from basic trespassing?

Exactly....

said it for me

[bigtex]

On February 19th the House Natural Resource Committee voted unanimously in favor of this bill.

[CAMPMEAT]

I thought the public had voting rights, WTF ! They come up will these stupid laws, no matter what side you're on and vote this crap in without public input.............


How about some good 'ol back alley justice, instead of another *censored* law to generate revenue for the state. God I hate this state....

[bigtex]

I thought the public had voting rights, WTF ! They come up will these stupid laws, no matter what side you're on and vote this crap in without public input.............


How about some good 'ol back alley justice, instead of another *censored* law to generate revenue for the state. God I hate this state....

As far as I know your in Joel Kretz's district, Kretz voted in favor of this bill.

People can provide public input. There were no citizens that spoke in opposition to this bill at it's hearing.

[CAMPMEAT]

I thought the public had voting rights, WTF ! They come up will these stupid laws, no matter what side you're on and vote this crap in without public input.............


How about some good 'ol back alley justice, instead of another *censored* law to generate revenue for the state. God I hate this state....

As far as I know your in Joel Kretz's district, Kretz voted in favor of this bill.

People can provide public input. There were no citizens that spoke in opposition to this bill at it's hearing.



I am in Kretzs district. I noticed his wolf bill got shot down without any vote too. I still think it's a dumb law.

Public input doesn't mean much nowadays bigtex. I think we all know that.

[bigtex]

Yesterday the bill passed the House with unanimous support.

[Special T]

Another worthless bill that makes legislators feel good that they did something...

Thanks for keeping us abreast to issues Big Tex.

[mfswallace]

Another worthless bill that makes legislators feel good that they did something...

Thanks for keeping us abreast to issues Big Tex.

This does seem like money wasted 

[bigtex]

The common question regarding this bill is how is it different then a basic trespass charge?

The penalties for this offense and criminal trespass 2nd degree are exactly the same.

The only thing that this offense would do is count towards fishing/hunting license suspension. Right now if your removing sheds from private property and are convicted of criminal trespass 2nd degree it does not impact fishing/hunting licenses. If this bill were to pass you could be charged under this law, if you were convicted it would count as a fish and wildlife conviction and if you obtain 2/3 fish and wildlife convictions within a 10 year period your license is suspended for 2 years.

[dreamunelk]

this bill needs to die!  It is another attempt to privatize wildlife.    You are either trespassing or not!  Under this bill you could have to pay to shed hunt.  So if you are big timber you can charge varying rate.  Say $100 for walk-in and if you want to pick up sheds than it is $200!

Just say no!

[Rainier10]

this bill needs to die!  It is another attempt to privatize wildlife.    You are either trespassing or not!  Under this bill you could have to pay to shed hunt.  So if you are big timber you can charge varying rate.  Say $100 for walk-in and if you want to pick up sheds than it is $200!

Just say no!

So if your not a big timber company, just a small guy like me with 100 acres between winter ground and spring habitat it should just be a free for all on my property?  Well, free for all except for me, I still have to pay the taxes on my place.  I have to go to work to pay those taxes and these guys can go to my place during the week and pick up the sheds.  It's fun spending a weekend on your own little piece of heaven with your kids looking at some other guy's boot tracks and not finding a single shed.

[pianoman9701]

The common question regarding this bill is how is it different then a basic trespass charge?

The penalties for this offense and criminal trespass 2nd degree are exactly the same.

The only thing that this offense would do is count towards fishing/hunting license suspension. Right now if your removing sheds from private property and are convicted of criminal trespass 2nd degree it does not impact fishing/hunting licenses. If this bill were to pass you could be charged under this law, if you were convicted it would count as a fish and wildlife conviction and if you obtain 2/3 fish and wildlife convictions within a 10 year period your license is suspended for 2 years.

It would also be in addition to a trespassing charge, wouldn't it? And like the trespassing charge, wouldn't fly in court if the land isn't posted and the "picker" hadn't been previously warned off the property? If so, I don't have a problem with this bill. We shouldn't have unfettered access to someone's private land and the resources thereon, especially if we know it's private.

[fireweed]

The common question regarding this bill is how is it different then a basic trespass charge?

The penalties for this offense and criminal trespass 2nd degree are exactly the same.

The only thing that this offense would do is count towards fishing/hunting license suspension. Right now if your removing sheds from private property and are convicted of criminal trespass 2nd degree it does not impact fishing/hunting licenses. If this bill were to pass you could be charged under this law, if you were convicted it would count as a fish and wildlife conviction and if you obtain 2/3 fish and wildlife convictions within a 10 year period your license is suspended for 2 years.

does everyone who hunts sheds have to have a hunting license?  I don't think so, so this law provides different levels of punishment for license holders and non-license holders.  SAround here the tweekers do anything they can to get a buck--collect metal, pick agets, and I'm sure horn hunting is on their list of ways to pay for a fix.  Doubt they have hunting licenses.  The bill sounds fishy in a legal sense--two punishments for same offense depending if the person has a hunting license or not..