Proposed Grouse Limit Changes

[bigtex]

Up until a couple years ago the limit for grouse was 3. The limit was then changed to 4. WDFW is now proposing to keep the limit at 4 BUT only 3 of each species can be killed. So you could have 3 blues, and 1 ruffed, but not 4 ruffed.

I personally don't like it.

[Jonathan_S]

  Doesn't make sense.  It would pretty much make it a 3/day limit.  Most areas don't hold both.

[Woodchuck]

 
There are probably lots that couldn't tell the difference.

[Jonathan_S]

There probably lots that couldn't tell the difference.

An even better point.

[Curly]

I don't see that big of a problem with the proposed change if there is a good reason for it.  I wonder if they are thinking that with a 4 bird limit that a guy could wipe out some grouse populations in an area?  And a 3 bird limit gives them a chance? 

Isn't it better than simply going back to a 3 bird limit? 

[Jonathan_S]

Grouse populations getting wiped out with a 4/day limit but not with a 3/day limit?  I don't get it    not trying to be a jerk but I don't see how that would make a difference.

The vast majority of grouse harvest is done by people who shoot every grouse they see in the road from 1 September to 31 December and I imagine that very few people ever even fill a 4/day limit  How does a mixed bag change that?

[RadSav]

I never realized it changed from a 3/day limit.   So I get to shoot one more!

Seriously though, I think it opens the door for kids and less educated good honest folk to get into trouble. 

[JimmyHoffa]

One day I'll draw a Quality Grouse Permit.....
Was there a big decline?  Herbicide spraying?

[Curly]

I don't know.  I'm just hoping there is a reason for the proposed change. 

I think 3 of us wiped out an area of grouse when we limited on them 2 days in a row on opening weekend.  The next year we couldn't find a single grouse in that area.  Could have been a coincidence but I figured that we hurt the population of grouse in that immediate area for at least a year or two.    (This was back in '86 when the limit was 3 birds).

[Skillet]

I never realized it changed from a 3/day limit.   So I get to shoot one more!

Seriously though, I think it opens the door for kids and less educated good honest folk to get into trouble.

Yep, this kind of smells like a revenue generator that will result in some wasted game to me.  Kind of like the true spike rule...

[C-Money]

Just cut the bag limit to 3 if needed. I dont like the 3 +1 of a different species.

[bigtex]

The limit increased to 4 because then Commissioner Gary Douvia fought for it. Now WDFW says grouse populations are declining and i personally agree.

Either keep it at 4 or move it to three. Dont make it 4 but only 3 of one species.

[bigtex]

I never realized it changed from a 3/day limit.   So I get to shoot one more!

Seriously though, I think it opens the door for kids and less educated good honest folk to get into trouble.

Yep, this kind of smells like a revenue generator that will result in some wasted game to me.  Kind of like the true spike rule...

Revenue generator for who? WDFW doesn't get $ from tickets they write and this offense isn't a ticketable offense.

[grundy53]

The limit increased to 4 because then Commissioner Gary Douvia fought for it. Now WDFW says grouse populations are declining and i personally agree.

Either keep it at 4 or move it to three. Dont make it 4 but only 3 of one species.

make it one or a other.

[RB]

The limit increased to 4 because then Commissioner Gary Douvia fought for it. Now WDFW says grouse populations are declining and i personally agree.

Either keep it at 4 or move it to three. Dont make it 4 but only 3 of one species.