Spring Turkey is only 3 and a half months away.

[Wacenturion]

I have never charged a member an additional membership when they attend another banquet in the State, I do not know where your info is coming from but it is not correct, wonder how that lawsuit turned out ? gotta stand firm but at the same time have to know all the facts..Do you agree ?

Not to be cute here....but are we talking semantics?  you said...

                                                    "I have never charged a member an additional membership when they attend another banquet in the State"


You personally wouldn't be charging someone as the chapter person who sets at the registration table at the banquet does that....usually members or their wives.


If we're not being semantically correct, then I assume what you are saying is that you are not requiring chapters to charge a membership for all those attending a banquet if they are already a member for that year and that the banquet/membership policy of the NWTF is the same......... Correct?

If so......you're making progress....a good thing.

       

[turkeyhunter]

 RMEF,DU,Pheasant Forever, Mule Deer, QDMA,NRA,NWTF, naming just a few..All membership based, all hold fund raising banquets,all are apparently doing it wrong according to you, Without memberships and product to sell to generate funds why do we do this, in fact why are we even talking about it now ?...I will tell you the reason..Because we believe in the overall goal of these organizations. Might not be perfect, but we strive to do the best we can with what we have to work with.Thanks for the comments WA you do have some very valid points...In reference to my statement about the volunteers, I will finish my thought on that...The problem with Washington State volunteers is not finding them it is keeping them from being criticized and knocked down at every turn by people that take a bad experience they had 10 years ago and compound it by 100% and bad mouth these organizations at every turn. I will go into a chapter meeting and a grown man will tell me that 13 years ago the committee picked roast beef for dinner and he wanted prime rib, and he is still MAD about it......Folks we are on the same team here.....get over it and get involved and make a difference....It might not be what it was when you got started but it can be what make it....Maybe I should put that on a recruiting poster....OK round 5

[turkeyhunter]

If someone walks up to the table and Say's he or she is a member already or they belong to a committee I will charge them dinner only...That is for all 23 chapters in the State. If I end up with donated memberships at the end of the year I attach real names to them, I had 38 donated reg members last year, I went to two union halls in Spokane and some rural fire departments and signed real people up for free...I also started two new chapters that way...We are not all in this the way you have it

[turkeyhunter]

not to be cute here, I make it to 90% of my banquets, I work the front table and if there are issues I take care of them for the betterment of the chapter. The banquets that I sometimes have to double book I put a District Director in place and they are very aware how to handle dinner only tickets and if a question ever arises I am a phone call away. If you got on the phone with committee people in the State they would tell you that we do not charge memberships to active members or committee members from other chapters. I thought that was always the case, maybe I started a new trend.....chalk one up for the wicked RD of the West.

[Wacenturion]

RMEF,DU,Pheasant Forever, Mule Deer, QDMA,NRA,NWTF, naming just a few..All membership based, all hold fund raising banquets,all are apparently doing it wrong according to you, Without memberships and product to sell to generate funds why do we do this, in fact why are we even talking about it now ?...I will tell you the reason..Because we believe in the overall goal of these organizations. Might not be perfect, but we strive to do the best we can with what we have to work with.Thanks for the comments WA you do have some very valid points...In reference to my statement about the volunteers, I will finish my thought on that...The problem with Washington State volunteers is not finding them it is keeping them from being criticized and knocked down at every turn by people that take a bad experience they had 10 years ago and compound it by 100% and bad mouth these organizations at every turn. I will go into a chapter meeting and a grown man will tell me that 13 years ago the committee picked roast beef for dinner and he wanted prime rib, and he is still MAD about it......Folks we are on the same team here.....get over it and get involved and make a difference....It might not be what it was when you got started but it can be what make it....Maybe I should put that on a recruiting poster....OK round 5

Never said all the groups you mention above are doing it wrong.  Where do you come up with this stuff?  As one example Pheasants Forever does it better because the majority of funds generated at banquests belongs to and remains with the individual chapters.  Much better in my opinion for the members and the state than the way the NWTF does it.


Get over what?    You said earlier.......

                    "gotta stand firm but at the same time have to know all the facts..Do you agree ?"


Yep....I agree.  Just doing my part.

Oh....and as far as banquet memberships and the policy now......good deal.  A big improvement!  Congrats to you!

[strutnrut1984]

in pennsylvania the nwtf and the pgc work hand in hand. when i was a kid in the early 70s to see a turkey was a very rare site . now to see flocks of 100 or more is pretty common. the trap and transfer system worked great. also in the beginning they had game farms to raise poults. i would love to see that here. we shouldnt be bickering here too. we are all brothers here with a love of this great sport . united we must be. divided this will surely all end.      strut

[turkeyhunter]

Well said Strut...not bickering...but at the same time not getting anywhere.....Thanks for the comments

[Wacenturion]

in pennsylvania the nwtf and the pgc work hand in hand. when i was a kid in the early 70s to see a turkey was a very rare site . now to see flocks of 100 or more is pretty common. the trap and transfer system worked great. also in the beginning they had game farms to raise poults. i would love to see that here. we shouldnt be bickering here too. we are all brothers here with a love of this great sport . united we must be. divided this will surely all end.      strut

When Pennsylvania got out of the game farm turkey business and into relocating wild trapped birds, their restoration efforts took off.  All the birds you see back there now are a result of that.....not their game farm program.
 

[Wacenturion]

Well said Strut...not bickering...but at the same time not getting anywhere.....Thanks for the comments

In who's opinion.   Discussion is healthy......everyone benefits and learns something.  See...I just learned that you don't have multiple membership policies at the door anymore.  A good thing.   Hope you take something positive from it all.

[strutnrut1984]

thats what i was saying. the game farms were only in a few years to get a start

[Wacenturion]

that's what i was saying. the game farms were only in a few years to get a start

No...what you said was..............

                         "also in the beginning they had game farms to raise poults. i would love to see that here."

Not to get a start.....nothing started from those game farms except tame turkeys.  Love to see that here implies that you think that would be the way to do it here.

[strutnrut1984]

u know i dont come on this site to get ripped by someone who seems to like doing that to every discussion. im merely stating that i would like to see the nwtf and the wdfw to work together more. so u have a nice day too  i doubt ill be back. was fun to come on here and talk turkey huntin with the guys.

[Wacenturion]

Wasn't ripping you....just disagreed with your statement is all.  Nothing personal...stay around......most thread aren't this intense.  Most of the time anyway.  Sorry if you took offense. 

[turkeyhunter]

I had a meeting today with a land owner that is having some issues with Turkey's...When I got to his house I was somewhat surprised at the number of birds on his deck that would not let me in the house. Probably another 80 in his cow barn and 100 in the pasture,perfect candidate for a trap and transfer someday ? somehow ?...In the meantime I found another Spring honey hole.....So much funner talking Turkeys and not politics.....

[NWTFhunter]

OH DAVE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  I think I owe you lunch or something....  in the mean time, lets do that ranch..........