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Canceled halibut...
« on: May 04, 2015, 10:01:14 PM »
Our Westport halibut trip on the Starfire was canceled. Dang. Some boats are gonna try and go out, but not ours. Hoping for a good bottom trip Wednesday on the Freedom.
I felt like a one legged cat trying to bury a terd on a frozen pond!

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Re: Canceled halibut...
« Reply #1 on: May 04, 2015, 10:06:53 PM »
Bummer but best to be safe then sorry. 
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Re: Canceled halibut...
« Reply #2 on: May 04, 2015, 10:26:40 PM »
 :yeah: it's blowing pretty good out now. The boats have been getting a few halibut on bottom trips, hope we can get one Wednesday. 
I felt like a one legged cat trying to bury a terd on a frozen pond!

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Re: Canceled halibut...
« Reply #3 on: May 04, 2015, 10:30:57 PM »
Better safe than sorry. Those captains know their limits and the 12-14 combined seas tomorrow are not fishing friendly.


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Re: Canceled halibut...
« Reply #4 on: May 04, 2015, 10:37:30 PM »
How many people have lost a slip in the the La push. Marina?  It's a joke.siting on a gold mine. 5 guys in five years. 

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Re: Canceled halibut...
« Reply #5 on: May 04, 2015, 10:43:35 PM »
Better safe than sorry. Those captains know their limits and the 12-14 combined seas tomorrow are not fishing friendly.

What site do you use to see the weather conditions out in the salt?
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Re: Canceled halibut...
« Reply #6 on: May 04, 2015, 10:45:13 PM »
We used to cancel a lot of halibut trips on the ocean.  Our fish were at 50-55 fathoms.  Taking customers out when the drift is fast and the seas rough isn't much of a service to them.  We usually offered discount trips if they wanted or had the time to try again.  Safety was almost never an issue as our boats could handle some very nasty stuff.  But stealing someones money when odds were they would hit bottom three times and have to reel up 350-400' of line doesn't seem right, does it?

We would crab during the winter in horrible weather.  Cross bars with coast guard escorts.  Even run a few miles with breakers on the back deck.  Only once feared for my life and that was on the Columbia bar when we were late after helping the coastguard search for survivors of an earlier capsized vessel.  If people wanted to pay that much money for a boat ride we would take them darn near any day.  But if they expect to catch fish for that money the threshold is much lower.

We have cancelled a few trips due to mechanical issues.  Those were always embarrassing.  Best most modern boat in the bay and we can't keep a return fuel line from clogging :bash:  Sometimes crap happens!
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Re: Canceled halibut...
« Reply #7 on: May 04, 2015, 10:46:20 PM »
How many people have lost a slip in the the La push. Marina?  It's a joke.siting on a gold mine. 5 guys in five years. 

Bring back back Daryl and Daryl !

LaPush could be a whole different story.  That can get nasty rather quick!
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Re: Canceled halibut...
« Reply #8 on: May 04, 2015, 11:04:19 PM »
Red,
What wind speed, gets the trip cancelled?  8-10 mph?  Or higher?  Fridays forecast appears to be 8-10 mph for the opener of halibut.
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Re: Canceled halibut...
« Reply #9 on: May 04, 2015, 11:04:46 PM »
That bars not the question, they tell you you have a slip than you don't. If ya can't cross that bar you probably should go catch trout.
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Re: Canceled halibut...
« Reply #10 on: May 04, 2015, 11:20:53 PM »
Better safe than sorry. Those captains know their limits and the 12-14 combined seas tomorrow are not fishing friendly.

What site do you use to see the weather conditions out in the salt?

Pin point forecast on NOAA, Swell watch 3D weather and Magicseasweed...look at them all and find the middle ground,

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Re: Canceled halibut...
« Reply #11 on: May 04, 2015, 11:24:13 PM »
Red,
What wind speed, gets the trip cancelled?  8-10 mph?  Or higher?  Fridays forecast appears to be 8-10 mph for the opener of halibut.

8-10 is a whisper breeze. 12-15 makes 1-2' wind chop depending tide. 15-20 is bumpy and not much fun, 20 plus is stay home. Then add swell onto any of the above winds. My rule is anything combined much over 9- 10ft and I don't go. Thats in a 24ft boat.

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Re: Canceled halibut...
« Reply #12 on: May 04, 2015, 11:53:37 PM »
Red,
What wind speed, gets the trip cancelled?  8-10 mph?  Or higher?  Fridays forecast appears to be 8-10 mph for the opener of halibut.

Unless it has changed small craft advisory flags will be issued if winds are expect to reach 20 knots within 12 hours,  Gale force flags raise at 34knots and storm advisories at 48 knots.  Fishing much deeper than 20 fathoms is difficult under small craft advisories, but if you have enough boat you can manage by backing into the current.  Gale are darn near unfishable and not at all pleasurable for charter fishing.  We have crabbed under gales before, but it's not overly enjoyable doing that either.

Big thing is liability.  If a customer falls, gets thrown into something or gets injured in any way while a charter skipper ignores a gale flag - penalties can be steep! 

My mentor used to say, "Customers first, my boat second, you and I last!" :chuckle:


We have cancelled trips when wind was not very high at all.  Really depends more on current than it does wind.  With twin screws, good hull design and large props you can back into wind rather well.  But current is going to make or break hitting bottom at more than 30 fathoms.  We always figured if a novice can not jig at least 10 pulls before losing bottom then drift is too fast or the water too deep.
« Last Edit: May 05, 2015, 12:00:02 AM by RadSav »
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Re: Canceled halibut...
« Reply #13 on: May 05, 2015, 07:23:00 AM »
Here's what the tides look like for Friday and Saturday this week.
Day        High      Tide  Height   Sunrise    Moon  Time      % Moon
           /Low      Time    Feet    Sunset                    Visible

F    8      Low   1:45 AM     5.9   5:40 AM    Rise 12:04 AM      86
     8     High   6:25 AM     6.5   8:35 PM     Set  9:33 AM
     8      Low   1:38 PM    -1.1
     8     High   9:25 PM     7.7

Sa   9      Low   2:50 AM     5.9   5:39 AM    Rise 12:52 AM      77
     9     High   7:13 AM     6.1   8:36 PM     Set 10:37 AM
     9      Low   2:28 PM    -0.8
     9     High  10:17 PM     7.6
Winds appear to be 8-10 mph around noon.
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Re: Canceled halibut...
« Reply #14 on: May 05, 2015, 08:29:09 AM »
My friend is working on a 450 foot dredge that is doing the Westport bar and he called me this morning saying the Westport bar is nasty so sunday should be a better halibut day.

 


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