Changes you would like to see in the big game drawings

[huntnphool]

I just thought of something- I would like to do away with the point option. Either apply for a hunt or don't apply at all.

 Most of the quality hunts are one in the same Bob.

[LabChamp]

Drop the license purchase requirement to apply!

I see this alot and I know people who buy tags for their wives that don't hunt and have never held a gun. But somehow they sure tag out every year. Somehow this needs to stop and people need to take a little more responsibility for doing what's right and not be so greedy.

If they "tag out every year" they are purchasing licenses every year, apples and oranges.

I would be fine with it if they were the ones hunting and or applying. But when some guys wife shoots a mule deer in Ellensburg while his wife is actually at work in bellevue.... Thats just not right

 I agree 100%, but again that's a completely different topic.

I used that as an example of how it's unfair to be putting in for hunting tags or points when you aren't even eligible to own a hunting license

 You can't put in for "tags" without a license, and the points are only for moose, goat and sheep. Without the current rule, non residents would then be required to purchase a license in order to apply for those 3, that is the reason behind it.

I pay non resident prices for all my tags in other states

  And if non residents draw a permit here, they pay for their out of state tag too. They just don't need to pay for the license up front to apply.

 At least in some other states, you don't draw you get your money back.

Let's knock some of those non residents out of the pool and make the ones who stick around contribute to our WDFW, and our states conservation efforts for a few years before giving them one of our OIL or quality tags.

[huntnphool]

Drop the license purchase requirement to apply!

I see this alot and I know people who buy tags for their wives that don't hunt and have never held a gun. But somehow they sure tag out every year. Somehow this needs to stop and people need to take a little more responsibility for doing what's right and not be so greedy.

If they "tag out every year" they are purchasing licenses every year, apples and oranges.

I would be fine with it if they were the ones hunting and or applying. But when some guys wife shoots a mule deer in Ellensburg while his wife is actually at work in bellevue.... Thats just not right

 I agree 100%, but again that's a completely different topic.

I used that as an example of how it's unfair to be putting in for hunting tags or points when you aren't even eligible to own a hunting license

 You can't put in for "tags" without a license, and the points are only for moose, goat and sheep. Without the current rule, non residents would then be required to purchase a license in order to apply for those 3, that is the reason behind it.

I pay non resident prices for all my tags in other states

  And if non residents draw a permit here, they pay for their out of state tag too. They just don't need to pay for the license up front to apply.

 At least in some other states, you don't draw you get your money back.

Let's knock some of those non residents out of the pool and make the ones who stick around contribute to our WDFW, and our states conservation efforts for a few years before giving them one of our OIL or quality tags.

 No argument there, what I'd really like to see is all applications start at $50.00/ea, moose, sheep and goat $100.00/ea, all non refundable.

 License and tags must also be purchased up front when applying, then refunded if not drawn.

[LabChamp]

Drop the license purchase requirement to apply!

I see this alot and I know people who buy tags for their wives that don't hunt and have never held a gun. But somehow they sure tag out every year. Somehow this needs to stop and people need to take a little more responsibility for doing what's right and not be so greedy.

If they "tag out every year" they are purchasing licenses every year, apples and oranges.

I would be fine with it if they were the ones hunting and or applying. But when some guys wife shoots a mule deer in Ellensburg while his wife is actually at work in bellevue.... Thats just not right

 I agree 100%, but again that's a completely different topic.

I used that as an example of how it's unfair to be putting in for hunting tags or points when you aren't even eligible to own a hunting license

 You can't put in for "tags" without a license, and the points are only for moose, goat and sheep. Without the current rule, non residents would then be required to purchase a license in order to apply for those 3, that is the reason behind it.

I pay non resident prices for all my tags in other states

  And if non residents draw a permit here, they pay for their out of state tag too. They just don't need to pay for the license up front to apply.

 At least in some other states, you don't draw you get your money back.

Let's knock some of those non residents out of the pool and make the ones who stick around contribute to our WDFW, and our states conservation efforts for a few years before giving them one of our OIL or quality tags.

 No argument there, what I'd really like to see is all applications start at $50.00/ea, moose, sheep and goat $100.00/ea, all non refundable.

 License and tags must also be purchased up front when applying, then refunded if not drawn.

I would be into that idea. This is awesome, great thread OP

[rackattack]

Drop the license purchase requirement to apply!

I see this alot and I know people who buy tags for their wives that don't hunt and have never held a gun. But somehow they sure tag out every year. Somehow this needs to stop and people need to take a little more responsibility for doing what's right and not be so greedy.

If they "tag out every year" they are purchasing licenses every year, apples and oranges.

I would be fine with it if they were the ones hunting and or applying. But when some guys wife shoots a mule deer in Ellensburg while his wife is actually at work in bellevue.... Thats just not right

 I agree 100%, but again that's a completely different topic.

I used that as an example of how it's unfair to be putting in for hunting tags or points when you aren't even eligible to own a hunting license

 You can't put in for "tags" without a license, and the points are only for moose, goat and sheep. Without the current rule, non residents would then be required to purchase a license in order to apply for those 3, that is the reason behind it.

I pay non resident prices for all my tags in other states

  And if non residents draw a permit here, they pay for their out of state tag too. They just don't need to pay for the license up front to apply.

 At least in some other states, you don't draw you get your money back.

Let's knock some of those non residents out of the pool and make the ones who stick around contribute to our WDFW, and our states conservation efforts for a few years before giving them one of our OIL or quality tags.

 No argument there, what I'd really like to see is all applications start at $50.00/ea, moose, sheep and goat $100.00/ea, all non refundable.

 License and tags must also be purchased up front when applying, then refunded if not drawn.

I would be into that idea. This is awesome, great thread OP

Let's make this the longest quote ever........

[huntnphool]

Drop the license purchase requirement to apply!

I see this alot and I know people who buy tags for their wives that don't hunt and have never held a gun. But somehow they sure tag out every year. Somehow this needs to stop and people need to take a little more responsibility for doing what's right and not be so greedy.

If they "tag out every year" they are purchasing licenses every year, apples and oranges.

I would be fine with it if they were the ones hunting and or applying. But when some guys wife shoots a mule deer in Ellensburg while his wife is actually at work in bellevue.... Thats just not right

 I agree 100%, but again that's a completely different topic.

I used that as an example of how it's unfair to be putting in for hunting tags or points when you aren't even eligible to own a hunting license

 You can't put in for "tags" without a license, and the points are only for moose, goat and sheep. Without the current rule, non residents would then be required to purchase a license in order to apply for those 3, that is the reason behind it.

I pay non resident prices for all my tags in other states

  And if non residents draw a permit here, they pay for their out of state tag too. They just don't need to pay for the license up front to apply.

 At least in some other states, you don't draw you get your money back.

Let's knock some of those non residents out of the pool and make the ones who stick around contribute to our WDFW, and our states conservation efforts for a few years before giving them one of our OIL or quality tags.

 No argument there, what I'd really like to see is all applications start at $50.00/ea, moose, sheep and goat $100.00/ea, all non refundable.

 License and tags must also be purchased up front when applying, then refunded if not drawn.

I would be into that idea. This is awesome, great thread OP

 I'm talking residents too!

[mp.hunter]

Yea, the state is not reliant on non-resident revenue, I like that. As indicated in how much they charge for NR tags and fees. I just think when the word "fair" is used, when it comes to our draw system, I don't think someone should wait over 17 years to draw a reasonable quality tag, that's why a minimum should be implemented.


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[LabChamp]

Yeah residents too. I would go as high as 250 for each of my OIL applications. Worth it imo

[LabChamp]

Yea, the state is not reliant on non-resident revenue, I like that. As indicated in how much they charge for NR tags and fees. I just think when the word "fair" is used, when it comes to our draw system, I don't think someone should wait over 17 years to draw a reasonable quality tag, that's why a minimum should be implemented.


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100%

[rackattack]

Let's get back to the real topic. Trophyhunt, what day did they ask you to witness the draw?

[huntnphool]

Yea, the state is not reliant on non-resident revenue, I like that. As indicated in how much they charge for NR tags and fees. I just think when the word "fair" is used, when it comes to our draw system, I don't think someone should wait over 17 years to draw a reasonable quality tag, that's why a minimum should be implemented.

 There are those of us that would like to see the late "quality" hunts go away all together, that would make it "fair" for everyone, including the animals!

[mp.hunter]

Lol, there it is:)


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[LabChamp]

No kidding that's important info

[trophyhunt]

Let's get back to the real topic. Trophyhunt, what day did they ask you to witness the draw?

Ha, I can't believe we made it to the second page before that question was asked!!  lol.  I haven't been called yet, they will give me a short notice they said. 

[danderson]

  I have advocated for the last few years to allow some of our senior hunters to cash out so to speak of the point system, allow them to go all in with every point they have accrued over the years for a special drawing for deer or elk, this pool of hunters would be those that are at the end of there hunting careers, not some young buck with a mass of poacher points, there choice would come from a separate category of permits so it wouldn't take away from the general population special permit hunts, it will in a few years also increase our odds of drawing a permit due to the drop out rate from successful applicants, lets show a little more respect to our senior sportsman, after we all hope to be in there position one day, it could  be managed through the terminally ill special permit process.