Talking to a taxidermist with a 39" Mulie on his wall from on Sherman. Lots of pictures of other giants. Including 2 racks his buddies got over 40"s. They're there, just gotta find em. I've noticed lots and lots of spikes and forked horns this year. Should be great hunting in a couple years! Trying for Mulie, bear, and elk all in the same area this year. Public land too!