Hoochie Mama and Baby Hoochie Mama?

[ridgefire]

People talk crap about them but they do work. I use one along with a who's yrr daddy and a mellow yellow diaphragm and have called in plenty of elk with these calls.

[cryder]

Nothing but fake sounding pieces of junk, now days elk are more timmed to calls, you have to sound real , specially if you bow hunt and want to get up close,Wayne Charlton once said , all you really need is that lost calf short and sweet,I totally agree , I have proved it more than once , and I mean for the real close stuff, had a 5+4 come stomping up hill on just one little chirp,also had three cows look in my derection and fighting each other to get to me first , and that was nothing but one little suitle chirp, ive got a 50$ read system call and it is still in the silly piece of non perishable plastic they hemedically sealed it in, I think I will throw it up in the air and shoot it with my ten gauge, just because of how much that plastid pisses me off. Bow hunting is all about finding them then getting close, a suitle cherp will do the rest trust me .

[Jonathan_S]

Nothing but fake sounding pieces of junk, now days elk are more timmed to calls, you have to sound real , specially if you bow hunt and want to get up close,Wayne Charlton once said , all you really need is that lost calf short and sweet,I totally agree , I have proved it more than once , and I mean for the real close stuff, had a 5+4 come stomping up hill on just one little chirp,also had three cows look in my derection and fighting each other to get to me first , and that was nothing but one little suitle chirp, ive got a 50$ read system call and it is still in the silly piece of non perishable plastic they hemedically sealed it in, I think I will throw it up in the air and shoot it with my ten gauge, just because of how much that plastid pisses me off. Bow hunting is all about finding them then getting close, a suitle cherp will do the rest trust me .

The hoochie mama does a fine job of making a chirp sound 

[cryder]

Ibelieve it takes to much of a squeeze to get it to work at all hence the to strong of a sound been using that thing for 30 years then I met a man named Wayne Charlton I don't know if you know him or not but he is the bible writer to me when it comes to elk , he preaches the act of calling 24/7 and he told me save your money, I don't recall what its name is but its a little tiny piece of tube whith a tiny reed in it, he swears for bow hunting its all you will ever need, these days all bugleing does is tell the critters were you are because most hunters aren't pros. at it so all we are doing is ruining it for those who are so if you haven't won any compititions lately leave the crap at home for the kids to play with they will love it , that's were mine mostly are.

[dscubame]

Nothing but fake sounding pieces of junk, now days elk are more timmed to calls, you have to sound real , specially if you bow hunt and want to get up close,Wayne Charlton once said , all you really need is that lost calf short and sweet,I totally agree , I have proved it more than once , and I mean for the real close stuff, had a 5+4 come stomping up hill on just one little chirp,also had three cows look in my derection and fighting each other to get to me first , and that was nothing but one little suitle chirp, ive got a 50$ read system call and it is still in the silly piece of non perishable plastic they hemedically sealed it in, I think I will throw it up in the air and shoot it with my ten gauge, just because of how much that plastid pisses me off. Bow hunting is all about finding them then getting close, a suitle cherp will do the rest trust me .

You sound like a disgruntled fired employee from the Hoochie Mama company.  Hoochie Mama

[Jonathan_S]

Ibelieve it takes to much of a squeeze to get it to work at all hence the to strong of a sound been using that thing for 30 years then I met a man named Wayne Charlton I don't know if you know him or not but he is the bible writer to me when it comes to elk , he preaches the act of calling 24/7 and he told me save your money, I don't recall what its name is but its a little tiny piece of tube whith a tiny reed in it, he swears for bow hunting its all you will ever need, these days all bugleing does is tell the critters were you are because most hunters aren't pros. at it so all we are doing is ruining it for those who are so if you haven't won any compititions lately leave the crap at home for the kids to play with they will love it , that's were mine mostly are.

The Hoochie Mama is far from being my favorite call but I killed a bull with it last year.  Elk are not quiet animals    I had it in my rain jacket pocket and that made it plenty quiet if that were necessary.

Bugling can be a great way to locate/bed down bulls at a distance and it can be a great way to challenge a bull with cows.  I don't think you have to be an awesome sounding caller to bugle effectively.  Half the bulls I hear sound very unlike the stereotypical bugle sound.

[elkinrutdrivemenuts]

Get good with a mouth reed, you will enjoy it much more and be a much better caller.  Elk do not make the same sound every time they make a noise, the hoochie mama does.  If you want to sound like an elk, use a reed. 

[bearpaw]

They for some reason get crap flipped about them, but the work just fine.  I like my phelps reed calls because you can change tones and munipilate the calls, but I used the hoochie moma and baby hoochie for years and had success.  They are simple to use and do sound good, I preferred the baby over the mama myself.  Still use the baby in synce with my mouth call if I want to represent myself as more than 3 or 4 cows.

I couldn't have said it better. If you tried some calls and have trouble making them sound good then try a hoochie, they work better than most experienced hunters will admit! I think because they are popular and get used by a lot of hunters that more experienced hunters like to crack jokes about them. When you have time to learn and get better move on to other calls.

We carry cow calls and use them during all elk seasons, I know they can be effective at calling elk to you any time during the fall/winter.

[Jonathan_S]

Get good with a mouth reed, you will enjoy it much more and be a much better caller.  Elk do not make the same sound every time they make a noise, the hoochie mama does.  If you want to sound like an elk, use a reed.

Yes I agree, I have elk calls of every nature and prefer a mouth reed over a hoochie mama. 

My point was this:  I killed a bull elk when I left my mouth calls in the truck.  All I had was a baby hoochie mama call.  He was at 120 yards when I ranged him and I called him in with nothing more than a hoochie.  That young bull definitely thought I sounded like an elk 

[cryder]

The last bull me and my uncle got involved no calling at all , just good strategic planning and glassing and stalking , we nevewr let him know we were there we spotted him , we stalked him , we bedded him , and we woke him up with a 35 yard double lunger, so that being said I would never put down a good reed caller or bugler but as Wayne put it being suitle will work more often theses high pressured days , you guys can preach all day but just remember who wrote the bible, that would be mr. Wayne Charlton, ive done all my listening when he stopped talking, THANK YOU GOOD KNIGHT !

[Jonathan_S]

There are multiple ways to skin a cat.  There are some "high pressure, aggressive" elk hunters who kill a lot of bulls every year.  Enter:  Jason Phelps 

[bearpaw]

Calls are a matter of individual preference, some work better for some people than others. No doubt other calls can sound better and are more fun to use, I have a couple preferences that are not hoochies. But, if you can't get another call mastered then use a hoochie. If you play with the hoochie a little you will learn that you can get different sounds out of it. One muzzy elk hunt several years ago all I had with me was a hoochie and an old bugle, most everything was sold out at local stores, I did buy another call but I couldn't get it to sound right so I used the hoochie. I called a nice 6x6 to us from about 500 yards that we passed, then we went after a bigger herd bull the same day, there were three bulls with those cows that were answering, I called the bigger bull into a good shooting position just before dark and we nailed it. Proof a hoochie will work on a smart herd bull that had probably been called at by many different hunters during the archery and rifle seasons earlier in the month!

[Jonathan_S]

   Nice. 

[elkinrutdrivemenuts]

Get good with a mouth reed, you will enjoy it much more and be a much better caller.  Elk do not make the same sound every time they make a noise, the hoochie mama does.  If you want to sound like an elk, use a reed.

Yes I agree, I have elk calls of every nature and prefer a mouth reed over a hoochie mama. 

My point was this:  I killed a bull elk when I left my mouth calls in the truck.  All I had was a baby hoochie mama call.  He was at 120 yards when I ranged him and I called him in with nothing more than a hoochie.  That young bull definitely thought I sounded like an elk 

I have had it work before as well, and I am sure they have been successful for numerous hunters.  I think a guy is much more versatile with a mouth reed, you can bugle and cow call and your hands are free.  I guess that would be my biggest pet peeve about a hoochie mama, elk will respond to it, but it is much nicer to get set up while archery hunting with a reed over a hand call. You can be ready to draw or at full draw and still make a call to turn a bull or make him commit.   

[Jonathan_S]

Get good with a mouth reed, you will enjoy it much more and be a much better caller.  Elk do not make the same sound every time they make a noise, the hoochie mama does.  If you want to sound like an elk, use a reed.

Yes I agree, I have elk calls of every nature and prefer a mouth reed over a hoochie mama. 

My point was this:  I killed a bull elk when I left my mouth calls in the truck.  All I had was a baby hoochie mama call.  He was at 120 yards when I ranged him and I called him in with nothing more than a hoochie.  That young bull definitely thought I sounded like an elk 

I have had it work before as well, and I am sure they have been successful for numerous hunters.  I think a guy is much more versatile with a mouth reed, you can bugle and cow call and your hands are free.  I guess that would be my biggest pet peeve about a hoochie mama, elk will respond to it, but it is much nicer to get set up while archery hunting with a reed over a hand call. You can be ready to draw or at full draw and still make a call to turn a bull or make him commit.

Agreed