collapse

Advertisement


Author Topic: Handgun options  (Read 20603 times)

Offline MountainWalk

  • "Pa Nevermissashot"
  • Political & Covid-19 Topics
  • Trade Count: (+1)
  • Frontiersman
  • *****
  • Join Date: Mar 2008
  • Posts: 3083
  • Location: Afognak, POW, Kodiak, Quilcene
  • High lead logger/ cutter
Re: Handgun options
« Reply #45 on: September 15, 2015, 07:02:21 PM »
I would be handloading.  Not opposed to 44special.  No 44mag.
The way that you wander, is the way that you choose
The day that you tarry, is the day that you lose

Offline ghosthunter

  • Political & Covid-19 Topics
  • Trade Count: (+21)
  • Old Salt
  • ******
  • Join Date: Apr 2011
  • Posts: 7589
  • Location: Mount Vernon WA
Re: Handgun options
« Reply #46 on: September 15, 2015, 07:06:44 PM »
Really any Hun will work.

In a high percentage of officer shootings,the officers reported they never saw the sights.
Aiming really not a factor within the 21 ft. Range.

Look it up.
GHOST CAMP "We Came To Hunt"
Proud Parent of A United States Marine

We are all traveling from Birth to the Packing House. ( Broken Trail)

“I f he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat.” ― Theodore Roosevelt

Don’t Curse the Darkness.

Offline j_h_nimrod

  • Non-Hunting Topics
  • Trade Count: (+1)
  • Sourdough
  • *****
  • Join Date: Aug 2011
  • Posts: 1597
  • Location: Humptulips, WA
Re: Handgun options
« Reply #47 on: September 15, 2015, 07:29:32 PM »
I would be handloading.  Not opposed to 44special.  No 44mag.

??? why not?

Offline Bean Counter

  • Site Sponsor
  • Non-Hunting Topics
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Explorer
  • ******
  • Join Date: Jul 2008
  • Posts: 13624
Re: Handgun options
« Reply #48 on: September 15, 2015, 10:26:28 PM »
IMO the judge is a joke, its not accurate and the 410 is next to useless. Its heavy and large. I've got a couple of Smiths a double  action with a hammer and a double action airweight without a hammer. Before I'd carry a Judge I'd look at a titanium Smith in 44 but it might be a hand full, of course it will shoot 44 special.
For all the experts that claim this, I've yet to meet one that wants to stare down the barrel.
And to all that use that line of logic, I ask, what size of barrel do you prefer to stare down?

:lol4:


Offline Firedogg

  • Past Sponsor
  • Trade Count: (+1)
  • Longhunter
  • *****
  • Join Date: Nov 2014
  • Posts: 987
  • Location: Eatonville
Re: Handgun options
« Reply #49 on: September 15, 2015, 10:53:57 PM »
 In a wheel gun for carry I am also in the GP100 fan club, but my EDC is a Sig 229 in .40.

  For something a bit more affordable than these two choices Taurus has both wheel guns and semi-autos that are dependable.
There is no greater respect to have for wildlife than to harvest an animal fairly and use it's flesh to feed your family.  ~me

Offline theleo

  • Non-Hunting Topics
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Sourdough
  • *****
  • Join Date: Sep 2013
  • Posts: 1212
  • Location: Kennewick
Re: Handgun options
« Reply #50 on: September 16, 2015, 05:39:50 AM »
I would be handloading.  Not opposed to 44special.  No 44mag.

??? why not?
Because in the case of say, ruger black hawks, you can get six rounds of 44 specials out of a 357 framed handgun instead of a heavier 44 mag framed pistol.

Offline CP

  • Trade Count: (+6)
  • Old Salt
  • ******
  • Join Date: Mar 2008
  • Posts: 6994
  • Location: Mukilteo
Re: Handgun options
« Reply #51 on: September 16, 2015, 06:16:10 AM »
I know it's not the same, but I do draw, clock and fire a cap and ball 36 enough that the mechanics of the effort aren't a big deal. I truly would rather have DA though.

   When I buy something like this, I want to use and enjoy it for different things as well. Maybe grouse hunting and of course, target practice.  Autos just don't do it for me. I'm not being obstinate,  I'm sorry.  357 and 45 are what I'm liking. We'll see. Thanks guys for the time and thoughts.

If your heart is set on a revolver there are still a lot of surplus law enforcement weapons around that are fairly priced.  S&W K frame models 13, 19, 65, & 66  in .357

Models 10 are cheap if you are OK with a .38 – they were in their time the most popular LE weapon made; simple, reliable, and virtually indestructible.

Grips can be changed to fit your needs and your hands



Offline jdb

  • the illustious potentate
  • Non-Hunting Topics
  • Trade Count: (+4)
  • Frontiersman
  • *****
  • Join Date: Jul 2007
  • Posts: 3785
  • Location: selah
Re: Handgun options
« Reply #52 on: September 20, 2015, 04:57:33 PM »
I'm really digging the Uberti cattleman' 73. Birdhead grip, blue/case, 45 4.5 barrel and affordable.

If you are seriously considering this as a self defense tool stay away from single action revolvers. While yes they are more than capable of doing the job they are slow and much harder to train with. Basically you would have to be able to train yourself to draw, roll back that hammer, aim, fire and then roll back that hammer again. all with one hand as fast as you can do it and also be able to use your weak hand.

Its much easier and smarter to "program" yourself to draw, aim, fire. keep it simple.

Also I just looked up the revolver your taking about its about $400 for a basic model. you could easily get into a DA smith, ruger or tauras for that.

Not to preach but there are certain rules I play by for self defense guns.

1. Keep it simple.
2. Keep it with you
2. Bird shot is for birds
3. No rim fires...ever
4. Nothing smaller than .380
5. Practice for the worst

Single action revolvers break rule 1 and the size and weight of that gun would break rule 2.

just my 2 cents.
there is nothing simpler than a single action revolver
nuke the gray whales for jesus!

Offline Mongo Hunter

  • Political & Covid-19 Topics
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Longhunter
  • *****
  • Join Date: Jan 2011
  • Posts: 855
  • Location: Vancouver
  • Pew Pew lifestyle
Re: Handgun options
« Reply #53 on: September 21, 2015, 08:21:42 AM »
I'm really digging the Uberti cattleman' 73. Birdhead grip, blue/case, 45 4.5 barrel and affordable.

If you are seriously considering this as a self defense tool stay away from single action revolvers. While yes they are more than capable of doing the job they are slow and much harder to train with. Basically you would have to be able to train yourself to draw, roll back that hammer, aim, fire and then roll back that hammer again. all with one hand as fast as you can do it and also be able to use your weak hand.

Its much easier and smarter to "program" yourself to draw, aim, fire. keep it simple.

Also I just looked up the revolver your taking about its about $400 for a basic model. you could easily get into a DA smith, ruger or tauras for that.

Not to preach but there are certain rules I play by for self defense guns.

1. Keep it simple.
2. Keep it with you
2. Bird shot is for birds
3. No rim fires...ever
4. Nothing smaller than .380
5. Practice for the worst

Single action revolvers break rule 1 and the size and weight of that gun would break rule 2.

just my 2 cents.
there is nothing simpler than a single action revolver

Keep everything simple, the gun is not the problem. To train yourself to add the extra motion of cocking a hammer is harder compared to just pulling the trigger. not to mention training for follow-up shots.

There are people out there that carry 1911's. Properly carried 1911's are "cock and locked", all you have to do is thumb down a little lever and fire. But you would be amazed at how many people screw that up under stress.
Vegetarian: Old Indian word for Bad Hunter.

Offline jaymark6655

  • Political & Covid-19 Topics
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Sourdough
  • *****
  • Join Date: Aug 2009
  • Posts: 1911
  • Location: Fredericksburg, VA
Re: Handgun options
« Reply #54 on: September 21, 2015, 08:27:08 AM »
I will vouch for that.  I started carrying a Glock, later received a 1911 as a gift.  When I tried to draw and fire, nothing happened.  Took me almost a week of training to remember flicking off that safety.  Now when I use the Glock, my thumb tries to move a lever that isn't there.  Strange that it caused that much problem because I never forgot to flip lever on an M16 while raising it.  :dunno:
20 Zardoz Points!

"That's the reason we pay $25 for a recoil lug made by a professional instead of one for $0.50 made by Micheal J Fox using a dremel!"

"Women should be treated the same as a French Rifle, dropped at the first sign of trouble."

"Fair is a meaningless word taught to young children."

Online pianoman9701

  • Mushroom Man
  • Business Sponsor
  • Trade Count: (+5)
  • Legend
  • *****
  • Join Date: Mar 2011
  • Posts: 44687
  • Location: Vancouver USA
  • WWC, NRA Life, WFW, NAGR, RMEF, WSB, NMLS #2014743
    • www.facebook.com/johnwallacemortgage
    • John Wallace Mortgage
Re: Handgun options
« Reply #55 on: September 21, 2015, 08:27:53 AM »
Most of the double action 45 Long Colts I know of have been larger cals (.454 or .460) primarily, but utilize the 45 LC just fine.
There's also a revolver called the Judge by Taurus that is a double action 45 LC and also .410 shotshell.  Not huge, but definitely not compact--mostly the cylinder was long.  Think it was 5 shot.

The Judge is on sale at Freddy's right now. I believe it's 399.00, which is about $150 off list.

I love the magazine capacity of a dependable auto. My 9mm LC9 has an extended mag so I have 11 shots. I also just got a shoulder rig for my XD .45, which gives me 14 shots. Since breaking in either gun, I've never had a jam. The 9mm is great because I can stick it in behind my back and never know it's there. The .45  is piece of mind in tweeker-ville.
"Restricting the rights of law-abiding citizens based on the actions of criminals and madmen will have no positive effect on the future acts of criminals and madmen. It will only serve to reduce individual rights and the very security of our republic." - Pianoman https://linktr.ee/johnlwallace

Offline theleo

  • Non-Hunting Topics
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Sourdough
  • *****
  • Join Date: Sep 2013
  • Posts: 1212
  • Location: Kennewick
Re: Handgun options
« Reply #56 on: September 21, 2015, 09:20:17 AM »
I'm really digging the Uberti cattleman' 73. Birdhead grip, blue/case, 45 4.5 barrel and affordable.

If you are seriously considering this as a self defense tool stay away from single action revolvers. While yes they are more than capable of doing the job they are slow and much harder to train with. Basically you would have to be able to train yourself to draw, roll back that hammer, aim, fire and then roll back that hammer again. all with one hand as fast as you can do it and also be able to use your weak hand.

Its much easier and smarter to "program" yourself to draw, aim, fire. keep it simple.

Also I just looked up the revolver your taking about its about $400 for a basic model. you could easily get into a DA smith, ruger or tauras for that.

Not to preach but there are certain rules I play by for self defense guns.

1. Keep it simple.
2. Keep it with you
2. Bird shot is for birds
3. No rim fires...ever
4. Nothing smaller than .380
5. Practice for the worst

Single action revolvers break rule 1 and the size and weight of that gun would break rule 2.

just my 2 cents.
there is nothing simpler than a single action revolver
Except for double action revolvers.

Offline Eric M

  • WA State Trappers Association
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Sourdough
  • *****
  • Join Date: Sep 2015
  • Posts: 1538
  • Location: somewhere in time
Re: Handgun options
« Reply #57 on: September 21, 2015, 09:22:44 AM »
Okay in the original post you mentioned being comfortable with revolvers. Everyone who mentioned semi autos has probably been shooting one for quite awhile. If you haven't, DON"T BUY ONE, at least not right away. There is no point in you carrying around a weapon you are not trained to use. Semi autos take practice, and you need to acquire "muscle memory". Otherwise at the critical time you are going to get yourself killed. If you need this gun now, and lack the training, then get yourself a revolver. I understand a budget, but don't go cheap. Lots of people poo poo the .38 nowadays, but the Ruger LCR (around $350-400) stands out in my mind as a reliable, hammerless, accurate little pistol. You can have all the stopping power you want, but if you can't hit anything because of recoil, it's a paperweight. Then get out and shoot a couple times a month. Just my  :twocents:

Offline jdb

  • the illustious potentate
  • Non-Hunting Topics
  • Trade Count: (+4)
  • Frontiersman
  • *****
  • Join Date: Jul 2007
  • Posts: 3785
  • Location: selah
Re: Handgun options
« Reply #58 on: September 22, 2015, 08:10:27 PM »
I guess it's all in your experience, all I've ever had is revolvers and the majority single action, it's just a natural thing for me to hook my thumb over the hammer as the gun recoils and it kinda cocks it's self as it comes down from recoil. Not saying it's as fast as a semi auto but it can be done pretty fast. I never feel inadequately armed when I have a single action.
nuke the gray whales for jesus!

Offline Ridgeratt

  • Washington For Wildlife
  • Trade Count: (+11)
  • Old Salt
  • ******
  • Join Date: Sep 2008
  • Posts: 5884
  • IBEW 73 (Retired) Burden on the working class.
Re: Handgun options
« Reply #59 on: September 22, 2015, 08:13:56 PM »
I guess it's all in your experience, all I've ever had is revolvers and the majority single action, it's just a natural thing for me to hook my thumb over the hammer as the gun recoils and it kinda cocks it's self as it comes down from recoil. Not saying it's as fast as a semi auto but it can be done pretty fast. I never feel inadequately armed when I have a single action.

Also never heard of a wheel gun Stove piping a round.

 


* Advertisement

* Recent Topics

2025 Draw Results by washingtonmuley
[Today at 01:40:21 PM]


2025 OILS! by d_wilson
[Today at 01:30:03 PM]


No Draw! Good luck! by BEARHUNTER1
[Today at 01:24:33 PM]


Unknown Suppressors - Whisper Pickle by Antlershed
[Today at 01:24:12 PM]


Hoof Rot by ASHQUACK
[Today at 01:00:49 PM]


Great Starter Home in Lakewood by pianoman9701
[Today at 12:35:40 PM]


quality colockum late rifle by outdooraddict
[Today at 12:16:15 PM]


The time clock has started.....and go. by shotguunar
[Today at 11:59:42 AM]


Pearygin Quality by X-Force
[Today at 11:50:15 AM]


Share your out of state experience by pianoman9701
[Today at 11:16:18 AM]


New to Mule deer hunting where to start by baldopepper
[Today at 10:01:19 AM]


KODIAK06 2025 trail cam and personal pics thread by kodiak06
[Today at 09:45:13 AM]

SimplePortal 2.3.7 © 2008-2025, SimplePortal