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Offline Bob33

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Re: does waiting period apply to private handgun sales
« Reply #15 on: October 02, 2015, 07:40:57 PM »
All makes sense now, thanks!
What is RCW that mandates a waiting period?

RCW 9.41 new section 4. Bottom of page 9. Top of page 10 sections 1 and 2.

http://sos.wa.gov/_assets/elections/initiatives/FinalText_483.pdf

If the buyer has a carry permit then the ffl can do the check like standard business. If they do not the paper work is submitted to law enforcement in the county/city they reside and they have 10 days to respond if they respond sooner and the result are proceed the gun can be transferred sooner. If not after 10 day the dealer may transfer. IN some cases the waiting period is 60 days is the person has not been a resident for the previous 90 days.
I'm still not seeing a mandatory waiting period. The dealer can deliver the gun as soon as the background check comes back with no issues. That is true regardless of whether the purchaser has a CPL or not, as I read it.

Except as otherwise provided in this chapter, a licensed dealer may not deliver any firearm to a purchaser or transferee until the earlier of:
(1) The results of all required background checks are known and the purchaser or transferee is not prohibited from owning or possessing a firearm under federal or state law; or
(2) Ten business days have elapsed from the date the licensed
dealer requested the background check.
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Re: does waiting period apply to private handgun sales
« Reply #16 on: October 02, 2015, 08:06:33 PM »
Yes that is correct bob. No minimum wait unless the background check results are unknow. Until they are known or 10 days have passed. A dealer cannot release a handgun.

There is no set minimum a dealer has to wait. As soon as the results are know as proceed it can go out the door.

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Re: does waiting period apply to private handgun sales
« Reply #17 on: October 02, 2015, 08:14:39 PM »
Yes that is correct bob. No minimum wait unless the background check results are unknow. Until they are known or 10 days have passed. A dealer cannot release a handgun.

There is no set minimum a dealer has to wait. As soon as the results are know as proceed it can go out the door.
Which is usually the case, regardless of whether or not the buyer has a CPL.
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Re: does waiting period apply to private handgun sales
« Reply #18 on: October 02, 2015, 08:21:04 PM »
Yes. Typically when a person does not have one. It takes several days for the results to be known after it has been submitted to the leo's. At least that is what I see through my shop. 2-5 is typical.
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Re: does waiting period apply to private handgun sales
« Reply #19 on: October 03, 2015, 12:33:31 AM »
Bob33, It appears you are confusing a long gun sale with a hand gun sale.  In a long gun sale there is just the federal form 4473 to fill out, and it is an "instant check".  In the case of a hand gun without a WCCP(Washington Concealed Carry Permit) there is also a state form to fill out that is submitted by fax to your local LEO.  If the buyer has a WCCP then they have already met the states requirement. Both the federal and state form are filled out, but the dealer is allowed to proceed with the "instant check" as they would with the long gun sale.
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Re: does waiting period apply to private handgun sales
« Reply #20 on: October 03, 2015, 10:39:01 AM »
....or, if you want to avoid the I-594 liberals law, if your gun was bought before Dec 13th (?) 2014, you don't need to do any transfer, if not wanting to register or transfer said gun, Right ? Who's going to know, right ? You never had to transfer any gun before that stupid law was put into effect by gun haters. :tup:
I couldn't agree more!!!  Of course I have a Washington CCP, so why should I have to give someone $20 to $50 for no reason??? Apparently I've met the requirements by having the concealed carry permit, so why throw that money away?
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Re: does waiting period apply to private handgun sales
« Reply #21 on: October 04, 2015, 03:35:15 PM »
....or, if you want to avoid the I-594 liberals law, if your gun was bought before Dec 13th (?) 2014, you don't need to do any transfer, if not wanting to register or transfer said gun, Right ? Who's going to know, right ? You never had to transfer any gun before that stupid law was put into effect by gun haters. :tup:
That's true, but most guys on here would not take a chance of jeopardizing their gun rights by selling or buying from someone they don't know without doing it legally. It could be a cop trying to set up a sting. I don't want to be paranoid, but it could happen. I gave all my guns away before the law went into effect. Is it ok under the law for the new owners to let me use the guns I gave them? Maybe I gave them half ownership. We both own them. Yeah that's it. We both own them.
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Re: does waiting period apply to private handgun sales
« Reply #22 on: October 04, 2015, 07:12:55 PM »
do you think cops are setting up sting buys to bust people that do not use a real transfer agency???
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Re: does waiting period apply to private handgun sales
« Reply #23 on: October 04, 2015, 07:42:24 PM »
No. But they could. Especially if someone made a enemy who wanted to set them up.
Like I said. It "could" happen.
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Re: does waiting period apply to private handgun sales
« Reply #24 on: October 06, 2015, 05:47:06 PM »
about 3 weeks ago a person on this site wanted to buy a shotgun from me. As soon as I said we must go thru a transfer, he bailed I never heard another word.???? a felon or a cop??? :dunno: :dunno:
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Re: does waiting period apply to private handgun sales
« Reply #25 on: October 06, 2015, 05:53:37 PM »
Violation of I-594 is a misdemeanor on first offense by the way.


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