Are we losing elk and deer permits to big timber companies in SE Washington??

[Todd_ID]

Vaguely on topic: Did I just read correctly that WDFW bought 2,061 acres from 4-O cattle company in Asotin for 3.7 million dollars??
Link: http://wdfw.wa.gov/news/nov1615a/

Yes. That's some valuable property.

The county says it's worth less than $100/acre for taxes.

[Mr Mykiss]

The county says it's worth less than $100/acre for taxes.

Apparently closer to $2,000/acre...

[pianoman9701]

It's a sticky issue....


I don't know the area but am a big fan of private property rights.  I hate it when folks get credit for hunting by written permission from the state but have no intention of allowing the public to hunt.  It seems that would be easy to audit. 

On the other side of things, if I owned 100,000 acres of timber, it wouldn't take long to shut the gates due to garbage, vandalism etc.

All for private landowner rights. It's just that when they don't want to allow public access by locking gates and selling permits, which is their right, they shouldn't expect the public to defer the taxes on their land until timber is brought to the scales. I don't allow people on my land and I pay full taxes up front. I don't get to wait until I sell the assets on my property. Timber companies should be no different.

[jackelope]

Curious if any of you Blue Mountains folks have  seen any of these signs down in the Dayton or Peola units. Or anywhere else for that matter. These have recently appeared it seems. Also curious to know if this seems legit to you folks. LHP's, elk and deer permits that come out of our quota #'s that are given out to family and employees of the company, all in exchange for public access, and now these signs.

Anyone seen these recently down there?

[grundy53]

 

[SemperFidelis97]

I have a feeling things are going to get a little touchy down that way Jackelope.  I would not be surprised to see some other large land owners starting to post some signs of their own since Bennett is getting preferential treatment from the state that none of the other folks are getting even though they go out of their way to give folks somewhere to hunt.   

[huntingfool7]

Curious if any of you Blue Mountains folks have  seen any of these signs down in the Dayton or Peola units. Or anywhere else for that matter. These have recently appeared it seems. Also curious to know if this seems legit to you folks. LHP's, elk and deer permits that come out of our quota #'s that are given out to family and employees of the company, all in exchange for public access, and now these signs.

Anyone seen these recently down there?

Did they lose their incentive permits? 

[jackelope]

Curious if any of you Blue Mountains folks have  seen any of these signs down in the Dayton or Peola units. Or anywhere else for that matter. These have recently appeared it seems. Also curious to know if this seems legit to you folks. LHP's, elk and deer permits that come out of our quota #'s that are given out to family and employees of the company, all in exchange for public access, and now these signs.

Anyone seen these recently down there?

Did they lose their incentive permits?

No

[jackelope]

I have a feeling things are going to get a little touchy down that way Jackelope.  I would not be surprised to see some other large land owners starting to post some signs of their own since Bennett is getting preferential treatment from the state that none of the other folks are getting even though they go out of their way to give folks somewhere to hunt.

Oh it's definitely getting touchy.

[whacker1]

tag

[idahohuntr]

I thought the agreement was to allow a bunch more hunt by reservation access? Is there truly no access to any of their ground? And they still get permits? 

[JLS]

There is not complete and factual information here.  If they are in an LHP that requires access, they cannot continue getting LHP permits without access.  If they abolished the access, they would still have to provide the public hunts as an LHP in order to get the LHP tags.

So, one way or the other they cannot get LHP tags without providing something in return.  To imply that they are doing so would be false.

[jackelope]

There is not complete and factual information here.  If they are in an LHP that requires access, they cannot continue getting LHP permits without access.  If they abolished the access, they would still have to provide the public hunts as an LHP in order to get the LHP tags.

So, one way or the other they cannot get LHP tags without providing something in return.  To imply that they are doing so would be false.

I know they own a piece of land in GMU 178 that is enrolled in the hunt by reservation program. There are no signs like that on that piece of property. I know that to be fact.  I Believe it is 2 pieces of separate property totaling about 700 acres.

I don't disagree with your comments about incomplete information. That's why my last post was more of a question than a statement or an implication. I'd like to know if there are more of those signs around. That specific picture is at Cahill Mountain in the Dayton unit. I don't know enough about that area to say for sure whether or not it is the same "Cahill" property listed in WDFW's hunt by reservation page. I haven't posted anything that is not factual though.

The other possibility I've been made known of is that it could be angry/upset neighbor landowners putting those signs up just as an FYI to folks.

[Skyvalhunter]

So contact the land owners and ask if its legit

[huntnphool]

A buddy with land in Dayton told me a couple days ago that there is one of those signs at the top of Cahill at the gate.

He said there is another one at the end of Berg Road off of cougar Canyon Road next to Wilbur Eatons ground.