GMU 101 ITS FINISHED... (NEW PROPOSAL)

[SHANE(WA)]

Good post teacherman, people just dont get it, It will be a slaughter, when you have seen a unit just as this unit opened up years ago to a late rut rifle hunt it was a slaughter, I SAW it, its where I lived, its still not the same to this day. This state does nothing whatsoever for trophy whitetail management, this was the last remaining unit in the state, this is it.Why cant they leave it alone? I am buying a rifle tag this season and so is my dad and alot of my buddys if this goes into effect, we are all bow hunters. There is going to be a flood of hunters to this unit.

[bobcat]

Yeah, I wondered the same thing. Shane, you think it's so terrible and all the deer will be wiped out, yet you want to be a part of it?   

[SHANE(WA)]

What I am saying there is a ton of archers that I know who will trade in there bows this year to hunt this unit in the late, we know whats up there, like teacher said. its open you see bucks from afar, means nothing with a bow, rifle in hand its game over. There will be a frenzy of people hunting this unit in the late

[SHANE(WA)]

I will be against it and trying to keep it closed, but if it opens we are all going rifle, why not?? its open its open, sure as hell not going up and bowhunting it after the rifle season, will never bowhunt that unit again if it does open, that was the whole point of driving 2 hours to this unit, it was the last little whitetail gem in the state, that was the attractive part of this unit and hunt.

[SHANE(WA)]

not anwsering to you, have you ever even been to the unit? probaly not

[SHANE(WA)]

you dont get it, its okay

[SHANE(WA)]

nothing to do with hipocrit at all, if it opens for rifle we are hunting it for rifle, is that to too much for you to understand? guess so

[270Shooter]

What he means is that he doesn't want them to open it up for late rifle. But if they are going to why not go up there and try to take a good buck before they all get killed. Its like if they opened all of the yakima units up to any bull for rifle hunters, do you think I would be up there trying to shoot a big bull? Heck ya I would. One or two people isn't going to make a differnce it will still be a slaughter.

He doesn't sound like a hypocrite to me. He just wants to get a chance at the deer up there before they are all gone.

[bobcat]

I was just thinking...do you guys suppose they could be doing this to reduce competition between whitetails and mule deer?

[Sneaky]

 

[rougheye]

I was just thinking...do you guys suppose they could be doing this to reduce competition between whitetails and mule deer?

Never crossed my mind , isnt it obvious that they dont manage the animals ? They manage the hunters . There is no rhym or reason .... 

[finnman]

Bobcat,
You read my mind! I was thinking the same question. But for the state to take what appears to be a drastic step for the sake of muleys would mean that this state actually is CONCERNED with their condition!
We know this is not the case, I don't live there but Teacherman might be able to fill us in on the muley condition a little better.
I believe its about hunter dispersement, trying to spread us all out.
There was an old timer at the sportman show last week, he had the NO.1 Non typical archery whitetail from Ferry Co., he said he has taken 3 in a row that size from his tree stand on FS ground, he said his hunting buddy took one last year that grossed over 200 INCHES!!!!! I have no reason not to believe him, he was a real nice guy about 70 years old.
If its open I will be up there for the rifle season, I have a few areas worth trying NW and SE of Republic, if the cancel the hunt I will stick close to town and try for a blacky.

[TeacherMan]

The whitetail and the mule deer don't spend much time together in this unit. You have the resident deer that stay low year round but the mule deer actually winter much higher than the whitetail deer. They are up around Vulcan and White mountain as we speak in very large herds protected on either private land and or gated land. The whitetail are on the Valley floor. Come spring time most of the mature whitetail bucks start to move to higher elevations but they stop at about he 3500-3800 foot level. Good tip for hunting this county. The mule deer move above that level. The top of Boulder pass is 4600' I've seen whitetail up at that level but its not the norm. The majority of the mule deer spend there time from 4500' - 7500' (Sherman Peak 7600+')I've never seen a mature mule deer and a whitetail in the same area. So yes there are times when they cross paths but its not the norm. You could skew the data really easy if you looked at the deer that are located at 2000' in January and the deer that are located at 2000' in June. They just don't spend much time together. Someone that just drives across the county may not think this because they really only get a perception of the local deer that don't move. They are not the norm it terms of the population.

As for 200" bucks in the county, they are here trust me on that one. No I will not share my pics  Give me time I will get one, with a bow...

In regards to some of the comments on this post, I think we may have a anti among us or just a 12 year old that knows everything. Hopefully in time they will learn the purpose of a sportsman is to be a conservationist and preserve what we have for future generations.

[finnman]

Closely guarded family secrets, I totally understand1

[walleye1]

bow hunters have been spoiled with general season rut hunts i know the success rate is poor but they still harvest a lot of trophy animals i believe all rut hunts should be draw only limit the numbers and all hunting methods can get a crack