Colville Antelope

[buckcanyonlodge]

Colvilles are doing a much finer job of trimming their wolves than our wdfw.

I hear them howling on the Colville Reservation across Lake Roosevelt from my place all the time. Just a matter of time before they get the bright idea to swim across. When they drop the lake in the winter it's not that far across.

[quadrafire]

Colvilles are doing a much finer job of trimming their wolves than our wdfw.

I hear them howling on the Colville Reservation across Lake Roosevelt from my place all the time. Just a matter of time before they get the bright idea to swim across. When they drop the lake in the winter it's not that far across.

Those Northern Pike are going to need something to eat maybe they will grab a few as they come across 

[DOUBLELUNG]

http://wdfw.wa.gov/living/pronghorn.html

Extirpated in the 1800s according to WDFW.  Pronghorn remains have been found as far north as Okanogan County along the Okanogan River.  They were also found at a jump trap in Moses Coulee during the rerouting of Highway 2, along with elk, deer, bison and bighorn sheep

[cem3434]

So they're calling it a "re-ireintroducingction" and they're saying pronghorn are a native species. But is there really any proof of that? I've done a lot of reading on this subject in the past and I never found anything that said they were 100% sure that pronghorn had ever existed in Washington state.

The same could be said about the gray wolves that have been "reintroduced", but that didn't stop WDFW from reintroducing them. At least the Colville tribe is trying to do something positive and give their people another game animal to harvest, so I applaud them.

[bobcat]

LOL.

Wolves- Not the subject of this thread but just to clarify... the WDFW did not re-introduce wolves.

The wolves we have now were either already here, or came here on their own from Canada, Idaho, and possibly Oregon.

And in the states in which they were re-introduced, that is the proper term since the species was native to those states.

[boneaddict]

Says the people that drank the blue koolaid, those that drank the red koolaid have a different opinion.   

Glad they are bringing them in.  More the Merrier!

[Bob33]

I think it's awesome that Colville is bringing them in. The Yakama tribe released 99 antelope in 2011, and they're doing well. Hopefully the Colville ones will as well.

[Gringo31]

I love the idea of bringing them in.



That being said, I HATE the idea of ignoring protocols that are in place to keep our cattle industry safe. 

http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2011/jan/23/pronghorns-are-back/

Link to my concern and a quote from article.

“Our understanding is that tribal officials and Nevada where conducting animal health testing,” he said. “The tribe would need to make a decision on what to do if any of the animals tested positive.”

Peregrine Wolff, Nevada state wildlife veterinarian based in Reno, said blood samples she drew from pronghorns delivered to Washington are being tested for brucellosis and possibly for tuberculosis, although it might be two weeks after the animals were released in Washington before results are available.

“TB testing is extremely expensive and we haven’t worked that out yet,” she said Wednesday.

I can't follow these protocols if I wanted to ship a cow from Nevada.  One would think for good reason.  I agree there is too much red tape with anything but for the tribe to get a pass on bio-security ticks me off.

[csaaphill]

Cool........... I asked once long ago why Washington didn't have Pronghorns, and was told it was too cold. Bull Oregon has them, and from what I've been reading on the Oregon Regs on hunting they are found in places just a few miles from the Border. not far either In and around Ontario you can find Pronghorn Antelope, and believe in, and around Baker so.....
I figured they had to be Native of Washington at one time now from Bones link there's proof that if they hunted them in Waitsburg they sure as heck had some in and around Walla Walla as well. Probably out towards Touchet too.

[boneaddict]

There were quite a few down there that had slipped across the border last year.   There are some guys keeping pretty close tabs on them.  Im not sure where those are at now. 

[jdb]

Cool........... I asked once long ago why Washington didn't have Pronghorns, and was told it was too cold. Bull Oregon has them, and from what I've been reading on the Oregon Regs on hunting they are found in places just a few miles from the Border. not far either In and around Ontario you can find Pronghorn Antelope, and believe in, and around Baker so.....
I figured they had to be Native of Washington at one time now from Bones link there's proof that if they hunted them in Waitsburg they sure as heck had some in and around Walla Walla as well. Probably out towards Touchet too.

to cold? If Wyoming isn't to cold then I'm sure washingtons fine

[boneaddict]

That's kind of what I was thinking.

[bobcat]

The biggest issue we have is a lack of habitat. Much of what would have been prime habitat 100 years ago, has been converted to agricultural uses and/or cattle range. I'd be amazed if Washington ever has hunt-able populations of antelope. They tried establishing antelope populations several decades ago and it didn't work, so I'm not sure why it would work now, with even less habitat than what would have been available back then. 

[Bob33]

The biggest issue we have is a lack of habitat. Much of what would have been prime habitat 100 years ago, has been converted to agricultural uses and/or cattle range. I'd be amazed if Washington ever has hunt-able populations of antelope. They tried establishing antelope populations several decades ago and it didn't work, so I'm not sure why it would work now, with even less habitat than what would have been available back then.

The 99 pronghorns that were released in 2011 are doing very well. The population has more than doubled.

[csaaphill]

Cool........... I asked once long ago why Washington didn't have Pronghorns, and was told it was too cold. Bull Oregon has them, and from what I've been reading on the Oregon Regs on hunting they are found in places just a few miles from the Border. not far either In and around Ontario you can find Pronghorn Antelope, and believe in, and around Baker so.....
I figured they had to be Native of Washington at one time now from Bones link there's proof that if they hunted them in Waitsburg they sure as heck had some in and around Walla Walla as well. Probably out towards Touchet too.

to cold? If Wyoming isn't to cold then I'm sure washingtons fine

yeah well that's what I was told lol. think it was an Uncle of mine, but don't remember, it's been 20-30 years ago now that I'd asked that.
I was like 10-12 years of age at the time.
But it's cool they are doing this.