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Long Range Accubond Review
« on: December 28, 2015, 04:38:35 PM »
So after a full hunting season and about 250 of these put down range, I figured I'd post up my findings and opinions on these bad boys.  First off, here are the specs

Bullet- .30 cal 190gr LRAB
Gun- Remington 700 300WSM
Load- Nosler Brass, 63.7gr IMR4350, Winchester primer.
Average MV-2,788fps

So first off, the B.C. on this bullet was very inflated for me.  it was more like .570 than .640 that is printed on the box.  I had a bit of trouble dialing in a load for it.  Changing powder may have helped but I don't believe in the old saying that some guns don't like this or that, there is always a combination that works, and I have a lot of 4350 so.... :chuckle:  This combo just happened to be long and slow.  Ended up being 10 off the lands and a light powder charge.  You shoot em where they wanna be though so I ran with it.
Lots of practive this summer to get all my data figured out before the season started.

Grand total for my gun this year was 8 deer and one elk.  Shots on deer ranged from 60 yards on out to 400 yards, and one at 710 yards.  The big cow elk was at 350. 

Performance was better than expected.  I wasn't so much concerned with the longer stuff as that is what the bullet was designed for but I was very interested on if the bullet was going to grenade on short work.  The deer at 60 yards was hit mid rib cage with the bullet exiting through the meat of the offside shoulder.  Lungs were pulverized!  The other close shot on a Montana buck was 150 yards.  Same quartering away shot but slightly lower.  Bullet exited the offside shoulder, hitting leg bone.  As can be expected, there was shoulder damage but from the sounds of it, nothing any other 180+ grain bullet wouldn't have done.

As for the longer work, the results were as to be expected.  My Colorado buck was 400 yards and the placement was a perfect heart shot.  The vitals were completely demolished! The heart was in 4 or 5 pieces :bash:   Bullet exited out the pocket on the other side.

I was not there for the long bomb but my instructions for using my gun was I needed to know how the bullet performed.  Shot was center lung, bullet was in the hide on the off side shoulder.  Internal damage was good and the bullet was mushroomed out just like it should be.

The only other bullet that was recovered was out of the elk.  The shot was a steeper quartering away angle.  Contacted a rib on the way in, destroyed the vitals and broke the leg bone on the off side shoulder.   Weight retention was 71%.

This bullet basically acted like every standard accubond I have ever killed with except it pops a lot harder at the longer distance, which is why I wanted to try it in the first place.  Love the VLD's but wanted something "less messy" at closer range.  This IS my new go to bullet for a couple of my guns.  I will be running some other sizes in a few other calibers here shortly.  I'll post up a pick of the recovered bullet here in a sec.
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Re: Long Range Accubond Review
« Reply #1 on: December 28, 2015, 04:41:37 PM »
That's a helpful review. Thank you.
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Re: Long Range Accubond Review
« Reply #2 on: December 28, 2015, 04:48:26 PM »
Here is the recovered bullet from the elk.  I'd snap some more pics but my youth hunter obviously kept it as a souvenir as it was his first elk.
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Re: Long Range Accubond Review
« Reply #3 on: December 28, 2015, 04:53:06 PM »
I have been playing with them as well. I have seen very poor results from bergers at close range. It's nice to see it used on so many animals.

I took one deer 616 yards this year and my bullet preformed very well. I put probably 150 of them down range in several guns and calibers and been very happy with them. I have been wondering at close range there results. So thank you for the post. Glad to see such positive results for them.

I agree the BC is a bit inflated for sure :chuckle:

I was a little shy to try shooting them at elk this year so I ran my normal accubonds this year. With a little more info after this season and seeing the results of my use on a deer and hearing yours. I might use them next year.
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Re: Long Range Accubond Review
« Reply #4 on: December 28, 2015, 04:57:20 PM »
I have been playing with them as well. I have seen very poor results from bergers at close range. It's nice to see it used on so many animals.

I took one deer 616 yards this year and my bullet preformed very well. I put probably 150 of them down range in several guns and calibers and been very happy with them. I have been wondering at close range there results. So thank you for the post. Glad to see such positive results for them.

I agree the BC is a bit inflated for sure :chuckle:

I was a little shy to try shooting them at elk this year so I ran my normal accubonds this year. With a little more info after this season and seeing the results of my use on a deer and hearing yours. I might use them next year.
Ya the 60 yard deer sealed the deal for me.  Hit a rib going in but held together just like a normal accubond would.  Could be the slower velocity I'm shooting them at but I'm betting as long as they aren't screaming, they will hold together well. 

I guess I should say to a point.  I don't care what your shooting, you bang a leg bone or something at close range and its probably gonna be messy :bdid:
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Re: Long Range Accubond Review
« Reply #5 on: December 28, 2015, 05:04:29 PM »
Thanks for the review.
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Re: Long Range Accubond Review
« Reply #6 on: December 28, 2015, 05:08:22 PM »
I have been playing with them as well. I have seen very poor results from bergers at close range. It's nice to see it used on so many animals.

I took one deer 616 yards this year and my bullet preformed very well. I put probably 150 of them down range in several guns and calibers and been very happy with them. I have been wondering at close range there results. So thank you for the post. Glad to see such positive results for them.

I agree the BC is a bit inflated for sure :chuckle:

I was a little shy to try shooting them at elk this year so I ran my normal accubonds this year. With a little more info after this season and seeing the results of my use on a deer and hearing yours. I might use them next year.
Ya the 60 yard deer sealed the deal for me.  Hit a rib going in but held together just like a normal accubond would.  Could be the slower velocity I'm shooting them at but I'm betting as long as they aren't screaming, they will hold together well. 

I guess I should say to a point.  I don't care what your shooting, you bang a leg bone or something at close range and its probably gonna be messy :bdid:

Agree. I watched a bull take 4 190 bergers at 150 yards or less on all shots. All in the right spots the bullets were just turning to dust before making it in. One finally made it in enough to get one lung :yike:

That recovered bullet is just beautiful.
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Re: Long Range Accubond Review
« Reply #7 on: December 28, 2015, 05:12:42 PM »
I have been playing with them as well. I have seen very poor results from bergers at close range. It's nice to see it used on so many animals.

I took one deer 616 yards this year and my bullet preformed very well. I put probably 150 of them down range in several guns and calibers and been very happy with them. I have been wondering at close range there results. So thank you for the post. Glad to see such positive results for them.

I agree the BC is a bit inflated for sure :chuckle:

I was a little shy to try shooting them at elk this year so I ran my normal accubonds this year. With a little more info after this season and seeing the results of my use on a deer and hearing yours. I might use them next year.
Ya the 60 yard deer sealed the deal for me.  Hit a rib going in but held together just like a normal accubond would.  Could be the slower velocity I'm shooting them at but I'm betting as long as they aren't screaming, they will hold together well. 

I guess I should say to a point.  I don't care what your shooting, you bang a leg bone or something at close range and its probably gonna be messy :bdid:

Agree. I watched a bull take 4 190 bergers at 150 yards or less on all shots. All in the right spots the bullets were just turning to dust before making it in. One finally made it in enough to get one lung :yike:

That recovered bullet is just beautiful.
The pedals are sharper than a prison shank too!!!  I actually cut my finger playing with the bullet :chuckle:
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Re: Long Range Accubond Review
« Reply #8 on: December 28, 2015, 05:24:38 PM »
Good review !

Hey Carp, how fast was those 190s going ??


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Re: Long Range Accubond Review
« Reply #9 on: December 28, 2015, 06:15:20 PM »
That's great. I know we talked about them I think before the season Glad you had such positive results.

The only thing I did not like was the bigger groups with higher velocity. I think you saw the same thing if I recall. Any time I break 3k the groups open up on me.


Good review !

Hey Carp, how fast was those 190s going ??

2850 out of a 300 wsm. I never would have thought they would kill so poor at even that velocity. Not super fast but still acted like a grenade on contact.
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Re: Long Range Accubond Review
« Reply #10 on: December 28, 2015, 06:23:59 PM »
That's great. I know we talked about them I think before the season Glad you had such positive results.

The only thing I did not like was the bigger groups with higher velocity. I think you saw the same thing if I recall. Any time I break 3k the groups open up on me.


Good review !

Hey Carp, how fast was those 190s going ??

2850 out of a 300 wsm. I never would have thought they would kill so poor at even that velocity. Not super fast but still acted like a grenade on contact.
  It was one of those, .1gr incriments and BAM, there it was!  63.9 I couldn't keep it under an inch but at 63.7 it was 3/8" if I behaved myself
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Re: Long Range Accubond Review
« Reply #11 on: December 28, 2015, 06:30:39 PM »
Same from me. My 7 STW was all over the place with the 168 LRAB. With a few different powders and lots of load testing then BAM! 1/2" or better all day. I can only run them at 2975 for my stw that is slow :chuckle: Yet they are still great bullets. Im going to spend some time with more load work this year and see if I can sneak up my velocity.

I have run the 150 .270/168 .284/ 190 .308. I'm working on a beast right now in 6.5 stw and just got 2 boxes of the 142 LRAB'S I am hoping I can get them to run but a light load in this new gun will be 3200 with the 142 :chuckle: 3400/3500 very doable with that cartridge.
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Re: Long Range Accubond Review
« Reply #12 on: December 28, 2015, 06:33:13 PM »
I'll be interested to see how they hold up at the increased velocity.  My get sloppy but I bet they will perform.
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Re: Long Range Accubond Review
« Reply #13 on: December 28, 2015, 06:34:57 PM »
Great report. I have been committed to the original 300 WSM 180 Accubonds for years. Shot plenty of animals with excellent results. None past 400 yds tho. I use Nosler ammo. At what point would you recommend changing to the 190 LRABs? I guess if they work well at short and long distance and shoot well out of my gun why not. Sounds like you had a great year. Happy New Year to all.

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Re: Long Range Accubond Review
« Reply #14 on: December 28, 2015, 06:40:17 PM »
I'll be interested to see how they hold up at the increased velocity.  My get sloppy but I bet they will perform.

I will try to do a report when I get it running.
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