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Quote from: Stein on January 03, 2016, 09:34:20 AMThe maps are the maps. Every enforcement agency uses them and I have no question about trusting them. They use gps and township/range data and are very accurate.Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkSimply put - with respect - you are wrong.Maps are representations, period. They are not records of surveys. They all have disclaimers stating the fact that they are not accurate.
The maps are the maps. Every enforcement agency uses them and I have no question about trusting them. They use gps and township/range data and are very accurate.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Quote from: Brad Harshman on January 03, 2016, 03:43:37 PMQuote from: Stein on January 03, 2016, 09:34:20 AMThe maps are the maps. Every enforcement agency uses them and I have no question about trusting them. They use gps and township/range data and are very accurate.Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkSimply put - with respect - you are wrong.Maps are representations, period. They are not records of surveys. They all have disclaimers stating the fact that they are not accurate.Accurate or not, if that is what legal authorities are using what is the issue?
Quote from: Bob33 on January 03, 2016, 04:01:27 PMQuote from: Brad Harshman on January 03, 2016, 03:43:37 PMQuote from: Stein on January 03, 2016, 09:34:20 AMThe maps are the maps. Every enforcement agency uses them and I have no question about trusting them. They use gps and township/range data and are very accurate.Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkSimply put - with respect - you are wrong.Maps are representations, period. They are not records of surveys. They all have disclaimers stating the fact that they are not accurate.Accurate or not, if that is what legal authorities are using what is the issue?Legal authorities is key. Enforcement officers are peace keepers, not proper ty experts. However, if you're truly looking for what the law says, than look at legal documents. Research titles some have record of surveys completed, not all though. But all titles have legal descriptions.You'll find out quickly that the legal authorities are the lawyers.It's best to play nice for the time being. Work with the state agency to find out if they know where the legal boundary is. You may have discovered an illegal encroachment on the state land and I'm sure they'll rectify it. Remember though, it's Government, and they move slowly.Good luck either way.
The legal authority would most likely go by what the landowner tells him, along with evidence on the ground such as a road, a fence, or the edge of a cleared area. I'm only speaking from the land surveying side of it though, as that is what I know. I don't know the law enforcement side.
Quote from: bobcat on January 03, 2016, 06:13:18 PMThe legal authority would most likely go by what the landowner tells him, along with evidence on the ground such as a road, a fence, or the edge of a cleared area. I'm only speaking from the land surveying side of it though, as that is what I know. I don't know the law enforcement side.Bobcat:Thank you for this informative response. It appears your profession is or has to do the land surveying? Or perhaps at one time this is what you did?
Quote from: bobcat on January 03, 2016, 06:13:18 PMThe legal authority would most likely go by what the landowner tells him, along with evidence on the ground such as a road, a fence, or the edge of a cleared area. I'm only speaking from the land surveying side of it though, as that is what I know. I don't know the law enforcement side.In Wyoming the enforcement officers go with onXmaps data, not what a landowner says because some of them lie. It would be interesting to know what Washington enforcement does.
Quote from: Bob33 on January 03, 2016, 06:24:00 PMQuote from: bobcat on January 03, 2016, 06:13:18 PMThe legal authority would most likely go by what the landowner tells him, along with evidence on the ground such as a road, a fence, or the edge of a cleared area. I'm only speaking from the land surveying side of it though, as that is what I know. I don't know the law enforcement side.In Wyoming the enforcement officers go with onXmaps data, not what a landowner says because some of them lie. It would be interesting to know what Washington enforcement does.I'm guessing in this situation if law enforcement was called, that there would be no citation. But I can't imagine it being an enjoyable hunt if you end up butting heads with a landowner and possibly paying customers. If there was a second time I would think there would be a citation.
But I can't imagine it being an enjoyable hunt if you end up butting heads with a landowner and possibly paying customers.