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I picked up a Traditions Pursuit Ambush III from the bargain cave for about 1/2 off (The packaging was damaged). The problem I am running into is that it comes with an accelerator breech plug that only holds 209 primers, and I have not been able to find a breech plug that will thread into the pursuit that will accept musket caps or #11 percussion caps. I want to hunt muzzleloader next year, but it looks like this breech plug may be a bigger issue that I realized when I bought the darn thing. I shot it the other day with some 209's, and it shot amazingly well, so it would be a shame if I couldn't get it legal for ML season.     :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash:
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Re: ISO Traditions Pursuit Ambush III Breech Plug, or a place to buy one.
« Reply #1 on: January 08, 2016, 09:22:51 PM »
I've never dealt with them, but you could try calling the manufacturer directly.

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Re: ISO Traditions Pursuit Ambush III Breech Plug, or a place to buy one.
« Reply #2 on: January 08, 2016, 09:44:21 PM »
I've never dealt with them, but you could try calling the manufacturer directly.

I emailed their customer services department today with the same question I posed here. You would think they would have more readily available breech plug selection for a brand that is supposed to be high quality.
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Re: ISO Traditions Pursuit Ambush III Breech Plug, or a place to buy one.
« Reply #3 on: January 09, 2016, 10:55:29 PM »
The guys down at The General Store did a great job today. They found me the part number for a replacement breech plug that takes #11 primers, and I was able to do a search on the Traditions website today by part number and get it ordered.

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Re: ISO Traditions Pursuit Ambush III Breech Plug, or a place to buy one.
« Reply #4 on: January 10, 2016, 06:42:58 AM »
Sweet, good luck with your new gun!  :tup:

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Re: ISO Traditions Pursuit Ambush III Breech Plug, or a place to buy one.
« Reply #5 on: January 10, 2016, 10:34:49 AM »
Thanks! I put a few rounds through it with the 209's, and it shoots pretty sweet. I can't wait to chase elk with it.

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Re: ISO Traditions Pursuit Ambush III Breech Plug, or a place to buy one.
« Reply #6 on: January 12, 2016, 03:20:14 PM »
I picked up a Traditions Pursuit Ambush III from the bargain cave for about 1/2 off (The packaging was damaged). The problem I am running into is that it comes with an accelerator breech plug that only holds 209 primers, and I have not been able to find a breech plug that will thread into the pursuit that will accept musket caps or #11 percussion caps. I want to hunt muzzleloader next year, but it looks like this breech plug may be a bigger issue that I realized when I bought the darn thing. I shot it the other day with some 209's, and it shot amazingly well, so it would be a shame if I couldn't get it legal for ML season.     :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash:

The Pursuit Ambush's are not a gun that is readily adapted to the Northwest regulations. I would definitely consult with Traditions before trying to make that change. First, all of their Northwest barrels have a groove milled in them to allow the breech to be 'open to the weather.' Another thing to note, is generally with a musket or #11 cap, you will need a different firing pin. With all of our conversations with Traditions, they have assured me that conversions are not possible, however with your gun being an older model, you may luck out. I am only able to speak about the newer models on the market, like the G4's. I wish you the best of luck, and hope that you're able to make your new muzzleloader work!

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Re: ISO Traditions Pursuit Ambush III Breech Plug, or a place to buy one.
« Reply #7 on: January 12, 2016, 06:47:02 PM »
I picked up a Traditions Pursuit Ambush III from the bargain cave for about 1/2 off (The packaging was damaged). The problem I am running into is that it comes with an accelerator breech plug that only holds 209 primers, and I have not been able to find a breech plug that will thread into the pursuit that will accept musket caps or #11 percussion caps. I want to hunt muzzleloader next year, but it looks like this breech plug may be a bigger issue that I realized when I bought the darn thing. I shot it the other day with some 209's, and it shot amazingly well, so it would be a shame if I couldn't get it legal for ML season.     :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash:

The Pursuit Ambush's are not a gun that is readily adapted to the Northwest regulations. I would definitely consult with Traditions before trying to make that change. First, all of their Northwest barrels have a groove milled in them to allow the breech to be 'open to the weather.' Another thing to note, is generally with a musket or #11 cap, you will need a different firing pin. With all of our conversations with Traditions, they have assured me that conversions are not possible, however with your gun being an older model, you may luck out. I am only able to speak about the newer models on the market, like the G4's. I wish you the best of luck, and hope that you're able to make your new muzzleloader work!
I appreciate the heads up. Being brand spanking new to muzzleloaders, I didn't even think to consider asking about primers and hunting. I hope the part I ordered does the trick. If not, I will stick to archery and modern until either the rules change, or I can afford another muzzleloader.

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Re: ISO Traditions Pursuit Ambush III Breech Plug, or a place to buy one.
« Reply #8 on: January 14, 2016, 07:13:28 PM »
I got my new breech plug. It fit perfectly, and it looks like it is going to contact with musket caps without a problem! I am super stoked!

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Re: ISO Traditions Pursuit Ambush III Breech Plug, or a place to buy one.
« Reply #9 on: January 14, 2016, 07:34:28 PM »
I got my new breech plug. It fit perfectly, and it looks like it is going to contact with musket caps without a problem! I am super stoked!

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  You could fire off a couple caps, without loading it, just to be sure.

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Re: ISO Traditions Pursuit Ambush III Breech Plug, or a place to buy one.
« Reply #10 on: January 14, 2016, 07:42:04 PM »
I got my new breech plug. It fit perfectly, and it looks like it is going to contact with musket caps without a problem! I am super stoked!

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  You could fire off a couple caps, without loading it, just to be sure.
I plan on doing just that in my garage tomorrow. If I wake the babies right now..............

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Re: ISO Traditions Pursuit Ambush III Breech Plug, or a place to buy one.
« Reply #11 on: January 16, 2016, 05:26:01 PM »
I replaced the breech plug with one that has a musket nipple, and no dice. The musket caps are refusing to pop.

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Re: ISO Traditions Pursuit Ambush III Breech Plug, or a place to buy one.
« Reply #12 on: January 16, 2016, 05:27:43 PM »
The firing pin is striking, but there is no pop. I tried to see if it was just a light pop, and if it would touch off some pyrodex, but no dice.

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Re: ISO Traditions Pursuit Ambush III Breech Plug, or a place to buy one.
« Reply #13 on: January 16, 2016, 05:28:21 PM »
It just splits the propellant.

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Re: ISO Traditions Pursuit Ambush III Breech Plug, or a place to buy one.
« Reply #14 on: January 16, 2016, 05:30:20 PM »
I picked up a Traditions Pursuit Ambush III from the bargain cave for about 1/2 off (The packaging was damaged). The problem I am running into is that it comes with an accelerator breech plug that only holds 209 primers, and I have not been able to find a breech plug that will thread into the pursuit that will accept musket caps or #11 percussion caps. I want to hunt muzzleloader next year, but it looks like this breech plug may be a bigger issue that I realized when I bought the darn thing. I shot it the other day with some 209's, and it shot amazingly well, so it would be a shame if I couldn't get it legal for ML season.     :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash:

The Pursuit Ambush's are not a gun that is readily adapted to the Northwest regulations. I would definitely consult with Traditions before trying to make that change. First, all of their Northwest barrels have a groove milled in them to allow the breech to be 'open to the weather.' Another thing to note, is generally with a musket or #11 cap, you will need a different firing pin. With all of our conversations with Traditions, they have assured me that conversions are not possible, however with your gun being an older model, you may luck out. I am only able to speak about the newer models on the market, like the G4's. I wish you the best of luck, and hope that you're able to make your new muzzleloader work!
Does the above described scenario sound like I need a new firing pin?

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