I Still Have Velvet...

[C-Money]

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[jackelope]

Stag.
He probably has no nuts.
 

[Buckewe]

Must be a costal blacktail. What did it smell like?

[trophyhunt]

Stag.
He probably has no nuts.
 

, cactus buck is what they are called isn't it?

[C-Money]

I bet your right Jackelope....

[C-Money]

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[jackelope]

Stag.
He probably has no nuts.
 

, cactus buck is what they are called isn't it?

Yep. No nuts, no testosterone.

[boneaddict]

That or an old doe, but generally no nuts

[Maverick]

Saw this one yesterday.

[benhuntin]

Saw this one yesterday.

coastal blacktail for sure!!

[JDHasty]

Twisted Horn coastal blacktail. 

[Maverick]

Saw this one yesterday.

coastal blacktail for sure!!

Nope thats an eastern Washington mule deer

[C-Money]

if the 4pt wasn't in the way, maybe we could have zoomed in closer....

[cat fisher]

blue tongue will cause that.

[Maverick]

blue tongue will cause that.

I think only whitetil are affected by blue tongue 

[JDHasty]

Saw this one yesterday.

coastal blacktail for sure!!

Nope thats an eastern Washington mule deer

Have you had your deer sniffer calibrated recently?  You sound awful sure of yourself. 

[Maverick]

Saw this one yesterday.

coastal blacktail for sure!!

Nope thats an eastern Washington mule deer

Have you had your deer sniffer calibrated recently?  You sound awful sure of yourself.

The picture I posted yes I'm sure of what is. I dont know where or what the original buck in velvet is.

[C-Money]

Saw this one yesterday.

coastal blacktail for sure!!

Nope thats an eastern Washington mule deer

Have you had your deer sniffer calibrated recently?  You sound awful sure of yourself.

The picture I posted yes I'm sure of what is. I dont know where or what the original buck in velvet is.

Original buck is a Grant County deer.

[C-Money]

This bucks backs got a little busted up, he will be a dandy next year.

[benhuntin]

Saw this one yesterday.

coastal blacktail for sure!!

Nope thats an eastern Washington mule deer

Have you had your deer sniffer calibrated recently?  You sound awful sure of yourself.

The picture I posted yes I'm sure of what is. I dont know where or what the original buck in velvet is.

looks like it is within 2 hours of Vancouver.

[Maverick]

Saw this one yesterday.

coastal blacktail for sure!!

Nope thats an eastern Washington mule deer

Have you had your deer sniffer calibrated recently?  You sound awful sure of yourself.

The picture I posted yes I'm sure of what is. I dont know where or what the original buck in velvet is.

looks like it is within 2 hours of Vancouver.

Way farther east

[JDHasty]

It is probably only fair to let you guys in on the "inside joke" that includes references to deer sniffing and being within two-hours of Portland Oregon.  Once you watch this short clip posted Dec 7th 2015 it will be clear to you:

https://www.facebook.com/jimburnworth


Jim Burnworth
December 7, 2015 ·

Why are sportsmen separated at heart why should we defend ourselves from each other? When we have a deer tag, as a free blooded American who has the freedom of choice on how to use it. We need to stand united! Who's with me?

Here are a few of the better comments: 

David Odell ""it's not our mistakes that hurt us, but the defense of our mistakes." No one attacked your hunting methods, you are getting push back for how you clearly intentionally misled people about the deer. If you have hunted blacktails your whole life in Oregon then you know exactly what this is and yet you chose to present it in a different light. "I thought it was the coast because I was within two hours of portland" You were two hours EAST of Portland, across the cascade mountain range. Hundreds of miles from the coast and true blacktail country. Those of us who live here and hunt here and know exactly what kind of reputation your "guide" has can see this for what it is. This is just sad to me Jim, I don't understand what you think you have to gain. It's a beautiful buck. Do it justice and celebrate it honestly. Maybe it is a pure blacktail and that's great. But 388 and 382 deer are bench legs at best, and mostly mule deer. When you tried to claim you were in blacktail country, with a foot of snow on the ground amongst ponderosa pines and oak trees on the east side of the cascades in WA, 4 hours from the coast....and then defend your comments by drumming up some weird hunters vs hunters thing...well that speaks for itself. Sorry man. Not buying it. Just my .02. No jealousy from me, I Hope you kill a huge mulie on this trip."

Michael Blake "Say what you will, you would think with your reputation you would know the difference between a "Coastal Blacktail" and one harvested elsewhere . Even your guides "Roosevelts" are Rocky Mountain Elk... Sure puts a question on your credibility when you misrepresent the animals taken.. I don't care what it was, it is a nice critter, but when you are a "Public Figure" you should respect the animal itself and be honest about its classification."

Lots of comment here too:

http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,186949.msg2475892.html#msg2475892

[270Shooter]

Saw this one yesterday.

that one wouldn't be right by the burbank fee hunt area on the refuge would it? I saw one just like that off of hwy 12 on friday.

[snowshoes22]

There has been a large number of these bucks in grant county the last few years. Not sure why.

[JDHasty]

There has been a large number of these bucks in grant county the last few years. Not sure why.

In dogs cryptorchidism is a trait that can be passed on by a male dog that is not affected and a large number of that dog's offspring or even second generation pups of females directly out of a dog that caried the mutant gene can show up.  So if this is also true of deer a dominant buck that carried and passed on a mutant gene could produce quite a few mutant descendants.  The good thing is that they are sterile and will go away in a generation or two.

This is only conjecture on my part and is at best an educated guess.
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[James]

It's cold, got to keep those antlers warm somehow.