SB 6308: Migratory bird hunting fee

[Gringo31]

You are right bigtex!


But, my problem is that I'm more fond of the enforcement side than I am the admin/biologist side!

[mfswallace]

That sounds good- so they can't spend the migratory bird money on wolves. 

Right because funds have never been misappropriated for wolves before 

[bobcat]

That sounds good- so they can't spend the migratory bird money on wolves. 

Right because funds have never been misappropriated for wolves before 

Well, you can't disagree with everything in this world just because of something wrong that MIGHT happen.

[mfswallace]

That sounds good- so they can't spend the migratory bird money on wolves. 

Right because funds have never been misappropriated for wolves before 

Well, you can't disagree with everything in this world just because of something wrong that MIGHT happen.

HAS Happened!!

[bobcat]

That sounds good- so they can't spend the migratory bird money on wolves. 

Right because funds have never been misappropriated for wolves before 

Well, you can't disagree with everything in this world just because of something wrong that MIGHT happen.

HAS Happened!!

Okay, so your position is that you're against the cost of ANYTHING increasing, because the additional revenue may be spent in a way that you don't deem appropriate?

[Gringo31]

Okay, so your position is that you're against the cost of ANYTHING increasing, because the additional revenue may be spent in a way that you don't deem appropriate?

That's my position!

I don't like their management plan so I don't want to give them a raise.  If I felt it was well used, I'd want to give them more.

[JimmyHoffa]

yeah, fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me.

[bobcat]

If only we could stop inflation!

Well, I guess there will be a few less waterfowl hunters. If you don't want to pay the extra $10, don't pay it and don't hunt waterfowl.

[Bob33]

That's a 67% increase.  At 3% per year inflation that's 17 years.

When was the last time the price was raised?

[bobcat]

It was $6.00 in 2000. Does that help?

[Fl0und3rz]

If the bill only redirected the funds to the appropriate use (migratory bird programs), I would have voted yes. 

Otherwise, I am not in favor of increasing funds to an agency that believes, what was it? half a million dollars?, was an appropriate use of funds for a wolf management program negotiator (for lack of a better recollection or characterization).

[JimmyHoffa]

That's a 67% increase.  At 3% per year inflation that's 17 years.

When was the last time the price was raised?

Was it changed to $15 in 2011?

[bobcat]

2011-2012 reg's show $13.20 for migratory bird authorization.

[bobcat]

Was looking at the wrong thing- migratory bird permit was $16.50.

[Bob33]

By any measure this increase appears to be much greater than inflation would support. $50 in extras now just to hunt ducks. Personally I think that's completely unjustified.

Why only waterfowl? Should we start tacking on an extra fee for elk, deer, pheasants, and bear?

I'd much rather give my money to organizations like RMEF and DU.