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SB 6308: Migratory bird hunting fee
« on: January 14, 2016, 08:01:49 AM »
SB 6308 will increase the migratory bird permit from $15 to $25. In addition, this $25 will go to a new account known as the migratory bird permit account which WDFW can only use for migratory bird program. Currently the $15 goes to the wildlife fund which funds most WDFW programs.

http://lawfilesext.leg.wa.gov/biennium/2015-16/Pdf/Bills/Senate%20Bills/6308.pdf

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SB 6308: Migratory bird hunting fee
« Reply #1 on: January 14, 2016, 08:06:36 AM »
That sounds good- so they can't spend the migratory bird money on wolves.  :tup:

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Re: SB 6308: Migratory bird hunting fee
« Reply #2 on: January 14, 2016, 08:13:28 AM »
That sounds good- so they can't spend the migratory bird money on wolves.  :tup:
:yeah:        :yeah:       :tup:

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Re: SB 6308: Migratory bird hunting fee
« Reply #3 on: January 14, 2016, 08:14:07 AM »
Sounds good, unless all the money goes to swans and plovers

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Re: SB 6308: Migratory bird hunting fee
« Reply #4 on: January 14, 2016, 08:22:50 AM »
That all sounds good till some jack wagon sees an account with X amount of money and questions it to fund something else...which usually is the exact opposite of the intended funds.
I've seen/heard of it way to much in this states government!
The pilfering of OHV funds to fund non/anti OHV uses.
 As well as the states transportation equipment fund. money which is supposed to go directly to replacing worn out equipment for the state right aways..instead gets pilfered to fund something else.
How about instead of increasing fees and or taxes  for this, that and the other thing...learning how to operate with current funds....this state is driving me crazy.


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Re: SB 6308: Migratory bird hunting fee
« Reply #5 on: January 14, 2016, 08:24:58 AM »
How about instead of increasing fees and or taxes  for this, that and the other thing...learning how to operate with current funds....this state is driving me crazy.
It's done in every state. It's called politics.....

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Re: SB 6308: Migratory bird hunting fee
« Reply #6 on: January 14, 2016, 08:25:40 AM »
After reading RCW 77.32.350 - it appears the only change is an increase in the fee, the rest is already law:

(1) Beginning July 1, 2011, the department, after soliciting recommendations from the public, shall select the design for the *migratory bird stamp.
(2) All revenue derived from the sale of migratory bird license validations or stamps by the department to any person hunting waterfowl or to any stamp collector shall be deposited in the state wildlife account and shall be used only for that portion of the cost of printing and production of the stamps for migratory waterfowl hunters as determined by subsection (4) of this section, and for those migratory waterfowl projects specified by the director of the department for the acquisition and development of migratory waterfowl habitat in the state and for the enhancement, protection, and propagation of migratory waterfowl in the state.

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Re: SB 6308: Migratory bird hunting fee
« Reply #7 on: January 14, 2016, 08:51:14 AM »
If they use it to benefit waterfowl I have no problem with a ten dollar increase.

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Re: SB 6308: Migratory bird hunting fee
« Reply #8 on: January 14, 2016, 09:28:15 AM »
After reading RCW 77.32.350 - it appears the only change is an increase in the fee, the rest is already law:

(1) Beginning July 1, 2011, the department, after soliciting recommendations from the public, shall select the design for the *migratory bird stamp.
(2) All revenue derived from the sale of migratory bird license validations or stamps by the department to any person hunting waterfowl or to any stamp collector shall be deposited in the state wildlife account and shall be used only for that portion of the cost of printing and production of the stamps for migratory waterfowl hunters as determined by subsection (4) of this section, and for those migratory waterfowl projects specified by the director of the department for the acquisition and development of migratory waterfowl habitat in the state and for the enhancement, protection, and propagation of migratory waterfowl in the state.
Incorrect.

Here is the current law:

RCW 77.32.350

Migratory birds—Supplemental permit—Fees.
In addition to a small game hunting license, a supplemental permit is required to hunt for migratory birds.
A migratory bird permit is required for all persons sixteen years of age or older to hunt migratory birds. The fee for the permit for hunters is fifteen dollars for residents and nonresidents.

Here is the proposed new law under RCW 77.32.350
(1)  In addition to a small game hunting license, a supplemental permit is required to hunt for migratory birds.
(2)  A migratory bird permit is required for all persons sixteen years of age or older to hunt migratory birds. The fee for the permit for hunters is twenty-five  dollars for residents and nonresidents.

In addition, a new statute would be added under RCW 77.32:
The migratory bird account is created in the custody of the state treasurer. All receipts from the fees paid under RCW  77.32.350  must be deposited into the account. Expenditures from the account may be used only for purposes relating to the department's migratory game bird program as specified in RCW  77.12.670. Only the director or the director's designee may authorize expenditures from the account. The account is subject to allotment procedures under  chapter  43.88  RCW, but an appropriation is not required for expenditures

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Re: SB 6308: Migratory bird hunting fee
« Reply #9 on: January 14, 2016, 09:48:31 AM »
I would assume that this bill was born out of the overwhelming acceptance of the Federal Bird stamp increase last year. 

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Re: SB 6308: Migratory bird hunting fee
« Reply #10 on: January 14, 2016, 09:54:35 AM »
That sounds good- so they can't spend the migratory bird money on wolves.  :tup:
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Re: SB 6308: Migratory bird hunting fee
« Reply #11 on: January 14, 2016, 10:24:06 AM »
Why would I want to pay another dime when I have zero trust in it being used wisely or in a way that I felt would be beneficial. 

This quote comes to mind when asking if I'm in favor of putting up more money to such a well run professional group.

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"I don't -- well things are -- again, things are done differently at Fish & Wildlife than they're done in a professional law enforcement agency."-    WDFW Chief Bruce Bjork (retired)
We must reject the idea that every time a law's broken, society is guilty rather than the lawbreaker. It is time to restore the American precept that each individual is accountable for his actions.
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Re: SB 6308: Migratory bird hunting fee
« Reply #12 on: January 14, 2016, 10:49:28 AM »
It's up to each individual to decide if the cost is worth it or not. If you feel the cost is too high, simply don't buy it.

I would think that most people who hunt waterfowl would be happy to pay an extra $10 that will likely benefit habitat and improve hunting opportunities.

$10 is nothing when you consider all the other costs of waterfowl hunting- decoys, dogs, boats, waders, shotgun shells, etc.

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Re: SB 6308: Migratory bird hunting fee
« Reply #13 on: January 14, 2016, 10:56:10 AM »
Why would I want to pay another dime when I have zero trust in it being used wisely or in a way that I felt would be beneficial. 

This quote comes to mind when asking if I'm in favor of putting up more money to such a well run professional group.

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"I don't -- well things are -- again, things are done differently at Fish & Wildlife than they're done in a professional law enforcement agency."-    WDFW Chief Bruce Bjork (retired)

 :yeah:

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Re: SB 6308: Migratory bird hunting fee
« Reply #14 on: January 14, 2016, 10:56:44 AM »
Why would I want to pay another dime when I have zero trust in it being used wisely or in a way that I felt would be beneficial. 

This quote comes to mind when asking if I'm in favor of putting up more money to such a well run professional group.

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"I don't -- well things are -- again, things are done differently at Fish & Wildlife than they're done in a professional law enforcement agency."-    WDFW Chief Bruce Bjork (retired)
Obviously that quote was directed to the Enforcement Program.

As the bill moves forward a financial report will be distributed on the bill basically saying how much $ WDFW expects to receive and where they would spend it. Once that comes out I will post it. Enforcement may get no money from this bill.

 


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