Where to go for decent bucks (permit possibiliities)

[grundy53]

OK.  I'm going to ask why it's going to get worse (MntMuley)?   I can make a case for it being "just about the same" as what we guess this year will bring.  I'm missing something in your line of thought.

The loss of this year's fawn crop would be legal bucks then. So their loss will be noticeable at that time.

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[MtnMuley]

Grundy touched on it.  Fawns are really having issues at the moment.  They're the generation you'll primarily be hunting in 2017-2019.  MAture deer also seem to be struggling a lot the past few weeks as their using up all that's left in their tank waiting for more feeding areas to uncover.  We had what I would consider a record harvest this past season.  More and more doe tags each year.  The 1200 or more special doe tags given after the Carlton Complex Fires.  A huge portion of the winter range burned over the last couple summers, driving nearly all the deer to the lowest elevations possible.  Record numbers of car/deer fatalities.  Predation at a high level without a manageable cougar plan (use of dogs).  The worst winter we've had since 96/97.  I remember very well what happened after that winter the following seasons.  These are just my perspectives as a local here that spends a fair amount of time out and about.

[DBLDWN]

Grundy touched on it.  Fawns are really having issues at the moment.  They're the generation you'll primarily be hunting in 2017-2019.  MAture deer also seem to be struggling a lot the past few weeks as their using up all that's left in their tank waiting for more feeding areas to uncover.  We had what I would consider a record harvest this past season.  More and more doe tags each year.  The 1200 or more special doe tags given after the Carlton Complex Fires.  A huge portion of the winter range burned over the last couple summers, driving nearly all the deer to the lowest elevations possible.  Record numbers of car/deer fatalities.  Predation at a high level without a manageable cougar plan (use of dogs).  The worst winter we've had since 96/97.  I remember very well what happened after that winter the following seasons.  These are just my perspectives as a local here that spends a fair amount of time out and about.

+2, hit the nail on the head!

[fishnfur]

I was trying to factor in all those variables.  It's hard to get an idea of the level of losses over this winter without actually seeing it.  Hopefully the region rebounds quickly over the next 5 - 6 years.

So...... back to the question.....   where to hunt?

[Boss .300 winmag]

 Coweeman! 

[Birdguy]

I am hoping with the extra snow this year we will have enough moisture in the ground for long enough that I can get some real plantings in that will help for the next several years. We have planted before and it works until it all dries up in the summer heat. Not living there and not having power makes growing tough. We will keep at though, everything loves clover, and I have seeds of several varieties to try out.


Coweeman you say