UNDIVIDE WASHINGTON STATE

[BULLBLASTER]

The west side might get a break though as well. Early season everyone heads east, then they shoot spikes and 2 points during the late buck hunt on the west side.
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  So much truth to that statement!   
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I'd be fine with a pick your species tag for deer. Similar things happen late whitetail season after the masses try for their Muleys General season. It could really help permit odds also if structured like the elk. 

[dscubame]

East side west side deer.  Brilliant, I am for that.

[Sitka_Blacktail]

It will give all of us more area to hunt, spread out hunters,and also be less pressure on the elk herds.Also you would be able to apply for tags,on both sides of the state,and no be forced to hunt that side if not drawn.This would be a big revenue increase to the WDFW,with more tags to draw for.Personally I don't see a downside to it.

For starters, it would put way more pressure on the herds unless western and eastern seasons ran concurrently. Hunters could bounce back and forth between areas as different seasons opened and closed putting more hunters in small areas.  Look at Idaho, they have elk zones which encompass three units or so that you have to choose when you buy an elk tag. This allows managers the ability to open different zones at different times without fear of flooding one area with hunters.

[HUNTINCOUPLE]

One thing I have often wondered is how many people in Washington buy an elk tag to apply, but never actually hunt if not drawn.  I was talking to some guys that said that is what they do.  Buy tags to apply, but basically just hunt deer half of the years.  Was totally incomprehensible to me     But made me wonder...?

 



 

[Sitka_Blacktail]

How about you live on the west side,you have to hunt and fish there too. Same for the east side. If you want to hunt the other side you pay nonresident fees.  Lots of people going to ID for sure.

I suspect this wouldn't work as well for the East side as some folks think.

Fact is, tax money in this state flows west to east.    That would stop.

I always thought it went the other way, once our money went west it never came back. All that money spent on the west side, super highways, tunnels, bridges, ferries, etc.

Here you go.

http://www.thestranger.com/seattle/welfare-state/Content?oid=6686284

[Sitka_Blacktail]

Not a idea to collect more money,as this is a more access issue.With a lot of the land in SW Washinton being FEE ACCESS,it would give hunters more areas to hunt.

Pretty simple then if you don't want to pay the access fees. Just choose an eastern tag instead of a western one.

[Rainier10]

Tag.

[ctwiggs1]

How about you live on the west side,you have to hunt and fish there too. Same for the east side. If you want to hunt the other side you pay nonresident fees.  Lots of people going to ID for sure.

I suspect this wouldn't work as well for the East side as some folks think.

Fact is, tax money in this state flows west to east.    That would stop.

I always thought it went the other way, once our money went west it never came back. All that money spent on the west side, super highways, tunnels, bridges, ferries, etc.

Here you go.

http://www.thestranger.com/seattle/welfare-state/Content?oid=6686284

I have a LOT of questions when reading that article.  I don't know what is fact, but I know that article isn't telling me everything.

[PolarBear]

Anyone that is looking for credible, non biased and factual information from the Stranger is a fool!

[Sitka_Blacktail]

Anyone that is looking for credible, non biased and factual information from the Stranger is a fool!

Give us a better source that disputes this story then.

[Bullkllr]

Here's an exerpt from a PI article: http://www.seattlepi.com/local/article/King-Co-pays-for-the-rest-of-the-state-is-that-969099.php
"In the 2007 fiscal year, King County contributed just over $6 billion to the state's tax coffers, according to the state. That year it received $3.5 billion from the general fund, for an expenses to revenue ratio of 0.59. The five counties which fared the worst in terms of getting tax money back compared to monies put in were: San Juan (0.41), King, Skagit (0.75), Jefferson (0.82) and Island (0.81).

The five counties getting the biggest bang out of their tax bucks were Whitman County, which paid $52.3 million in state taxes in 2007 but got $252 million back, for a ratio of 4.82. Whitman, in the southeastern part of the state, is home to Washington State University. Next is Thurston County, home to the state capital, with an expenses to revenue ratio of 3.17, then Lincoln County (2.54), Ferry (2.40) and Garfield (2.25). Lincoln, Ferry and Garfield are all small counties in Eastern Washington.

No county in Eastern Washington pays more in state general fund taxes than it receives back in expenditures."

[JimmyHoffa]

A lot (majority) of that General Fund is based off retail sales and B&O for each county.  I think it would be better if there was a way to show more of a 'per resident' tax load/tax receipt regarding the general fund.  I wonder if there would be a different outcome or if it would be the same.  So, if a guy from Eastern WA rounds up the wife and the eleven kids to go to a Seahacks or Mariners game and see Seattle for the weekend, does that make the same kind of exchange as the granola eater that drives out to E Washington to hike and camp for the weekend?  I understand it would be much more difficult to determine in depth breakdown.  But I see that stranger article referenced from time to time to claim that 'Seattleites' are paying off the rest of the state.

[Falcon]

Anyone that is looking for credible, non biased and factual information from the Stranger is a fool!

 

[Bullkllr]

A lot (majority) of that General Fund is based off retail sales and B&O for each county.  I think it would be better if there was a way to show more of a 'per resident' tax load/tax receipt regarding the general fund.  I wonder if there would be a different outcome or if it would be the same.  So, if a guy from Eastern WA rounds up the wife and the eleven kids to go to a Seahacks or Mariners game and see Seattle for the weekend, does that make the same kind of exchange as the granola eater that drives out to E Washington to hike and camp for the weekend?  I understand it would be much more difficult to determine in depth breakdown.  But I see that stranger article referenced from time to time to claim that 'Seattleites' are paying off the rest of the state.

The Stranger article generated a lot of discussion at the time, iirc. It is a somewhat radical rag, but I can't come up with anything saying they're wrong.

Here's is a really thorough breakdown from the state. I didn't read the whole thing.
http://www.ofm.wa.gov/fiscal/expenditures_and_revenues/county_expenditures_revenues.pdf

[mfswallace]

I am all for keeping it divided provided that the east side is managed by the east side.  We would be killing wolves, baiting bears, and chasing cats with dogs if it wasn't for Seattle.   

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/03/19/are-some-states-headed-for-splitsville-movement-grows-to-allow-sections-states-to-break-away.amp.html