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Would you vote for County Predator Management, Logging, Grazing, Trapping, etc

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Would you vote for County Predator Management, Hunting & Fishing Seasons, Trapping, Logging, Grazing, Road Closures, Land Use, etc?

I heard a rumor there are potential sheriff candidates who want to bring control of important issues back to county government?

 - Effective Predator Management (wolves, cougar, etc)
 - Hound Hunting Seasons
 - Return to Traditional Trapping
 - Restore Deer and Elk Herds
 - Logging & Grazing for Fire Prevention
 - Reopen Road Closures, Allow Land Use
 - Eliminate Discover Pass

I don't know enough about county government to know if county officials could actually do these things but I do know there's a lot of interest and the rumor I heard is there are candidates considering these issues as their platform for sheriff in Stevens County and Ferry County and they are encouraging candidates in other counties.

I thought it might be interesting to see what people think?
« Last Edit: March 12, 2016, 11:02:08 PM by bearpaw »
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Re: Would you vote for County Predator Management, Logging, Grazing, etc
« Reply #1 on: March 12, 2016, 11:05:16 PM »
A multitude of state laws would have to be changed in order for this to happen. Quite simply, it won't happen. I'm sure it'll get politicans elected (this is my view so vote for me) but you wont see any change in the law.

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Re: Would you vote for County Predator Management, Logging, Grazing, etc
« Reply #2 on: March 13, 2016, 12:34:59 AM »
Well, there is the fact that back in the day you could buy a county hunting and fishing license if that was the only place you were going to hunt and fish. I believe it went as late asthe 60s, possibly the 70s.
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Re: Would you vote for County Predator Management, Logging, Grazing, etc
« Reply #3 on: March 13, 2016, 01:57:52 AM »
Not sure I trust any politician to effectively manage wildlife, look how lobist have influenced elections... Small county governments could be bought or threaten with lawsuits that cripple  the minority of hunters, trappers, fisherman... This smells of politics..

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« Reply #4 on: March 13, 2016, 08:44:28 AM »
Not sure I trust any politician to effectively manage wildlife, look how lobist have influenced elections... Small county governments could be bought or threaten with lawsuits that cripple  the minority of hunters, trappers, fisherman... This smells of politics..

It is definitely all about politics, people in NE WA and other rural areas are tired of the 5 million people in the I-5 corridor determining every aspect of how we live. I imagine rural westside counties have the same problem.
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Re: Would you vote for County Predator Management, Logging, Grazing, etc
« Reply #5 on: March 13, 2016, 08:50:40 AM »
The way it should be but like Bigtex stated , it will happen ..Goes to show how much freedom we have lost and we let them get away with it ...Other than that I am all for it ...pretty sad you can not take your family out for a Sunday drive anymore ...at least over here on the Wetside ...But I did forget one thing ! If I pay an access fee of $200 I guess I can ..  haha

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Re: Would you vote for County Predator Management, Logging, Grazing, etc
« Reply #6 on: March 13, 2016, 08:54:06 AM »
Not sure I trust any politician to effectively manage wildlife, look how lobist have influenced elections... Small county governments could be bought or threaten with lawsuits that cripple  the minority of hunters, trappers, fisherman... This smells of politics..

It is definitely all about politics, people in NE WA and other rural areas are tired of the 5 million people in the I-5 corridor determining every aspect of how we live. I imagine rural westside counties have the same problem.
I live in one of the most premier places left in Western Washington ..Have everything a guy could dream of but they have us in lock down !  One of the best rivers known to man ...Now run by the Tribes ... Some of the best elk hunting around ...Now run by the tribes !  I am seriously calling BS !

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Re: Would you vote for County Predator Management, Logging, Grazing, etc
« Reply #7 on: March 13, 2016, 09:14:50 AM »
Get Conservation Northwest and every other anti-everything out of the scene. They are the ones who are destroying everything we have, as hunters,fishermen, ATV riding and the recreationalists. They have a choke hold on the people who supposedly run the government and the government itself...
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Re: Would you vote for County Predator Management, Logging, Grazing, etc
« Reply #8 on: March 13, 2016, 09:45:09 AM »
Get Conservation Northwest and every other anti-everything out of the scene. They are the ones who are destroying everything we have, as hunters,fishermen, ATV riding and the recreationalists. They have a choke hold on the people who supposedly run the government and the government itself...
:yeah:  if we could get those terrorist out of the picture a lot of things would be different here. 

A lot of us feel we are getting shang hi'ed by the liberals on the left coast.  Every year we loose more and more and this year it's looking like we are going to loose some more :bash:
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Re: Would you vote for County Predator Management, Logging, Grazing, etc
« Reply #9 on: March 13, 2016, 09:46:12 AM »
Maybe not completely have the decision making at the county level, but much more influential advisement and influence in policy and decision making. Animals and fires don't recognize county boundaries, but central leadership still needs to be aware of the vital information that counties can provide and "boots on the ground" perspective. Scientists should have the most important voice, then local governments and counties and finally state political interests as far are influence in the whole process. But that would be an ideal world and not anything close to how it works in this state right now.
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Re: Would you vote for County Predator Management, Logging, Grazing, etc
« Reply #10 on: March 13, 2016, 09:55:20 AM »
I'd be for it if it were a vote in position and not appointed.
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Re: Would you vote for County Predator Management, Logging, Grazing, etc
« Reply #11 on: March 13, 2016, 10:06:12 AM »
I'd be in favor of something that California has. Each county in CA has a "fish and game council/board." It is simply an advisory committee to the CA Fish & Game Commission. They provide insight on local issues, suggestions on seasons, etc. In CA a large portion of fish and wildlife fines go to these county boards who then disseminate the funds for fish and wildlife related projects. These positions are appointed, by I believe the County Commissioners, but I may be wrong. We have nothing similar to this in WA. Who would think, something good coming out of California....

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Re: Would you vote for County Predator Management, Logging, Grazing, etc
« Reply #12 on: March 13, 2016, 10:58:24 AM »
I think we sometimes forget that every county east of the cascades is a tax negative county (meaning for every dollar they pay in state taxes they receive more than a dollar back, ferry county gets over $3.00 back as an example).  I spend almost an equal amount of time on both sides of the state and hear arguments from both sides.  Both sides have good points, but I will say that those on the westside say that if the east side counties want more say, let them pay their own way.  (King county residents only get 62 cents back for every dollar they pay in state taxes).  I think before we start talking about taking away the westside influence on the east side,  we have to quit taking their money.

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Re: Would you vote for County Predator Management, Logging, Grazing, etc
« Reply #13 on: March 13, 2016, 11:16:29 AM »
That's state tax.  Puget Sound and I-5 get a lot of tax money just due to all the military.  Easy to siphon off lots of state tax in areas with lots of federal dollars coming in.  Sure east side gets some from the feds, but when looking around the westside just see so many fed gov (or connected) money.

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Re: Would you vote for County Predator Management, Logging, Grazing, etc
« Reply #14 on: March 13, 2016, 11:17:58 AM »
I think we sometimes forget that every county east of the cascades is a tax negative county (meaning for every dollar they pay in state taxes they receive more than a dollar back, ferry county gets over $3.00 back as an example).  I spend almost an equal amount of time on both sides of the state and hear arguments from both sides.  Both sides have good points, but I will say that those on the westside say that if the east side counties want more say, let them pay their own way.  (King county residents only get 62 cents back for every dollar they pay in state taxes).  I think before we start talking about taking away the westside influence on the east side,  we have to quit taking their money.

I don't forget that but I fail to see correlation between that and the original question. Its not as much an issue of money/taxes as it is making informed decisions about land and wildlife usage. I don't think anyone on the east side tries to dictate the ferry schedules: not because we don't pay for it but because we aren't informed decision-makers for that process.

And while the eastside may be tax negative, it is energy positive which the west side often seems to happily overlook in that equation.
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