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Quote from: Mongo Hunter on April 15, 2016, 11:18:55 AMQuote from: Squidward on April 15, 2016, 10:43:41 AMGrowing up we raised cows. shot pretty much all of them dead, with a single round(not the same single round LOL) from a 22lr. I seen a deer on the run hit behind the last rib and die on the spot with a 22lr. It will KILL.The question is not whether 22 will kill. a BB gun can kill. a pencil can kill. the question is whether or not a .22lr is adequate for self defense. in a self defense scenario your concern is STOPPING the attacker as quickly as possible (obviously he may die). 22lr is not adequate for self defense on the grounds its unreliable ammunition compared to center fire. we don't need to argue the grounds of effectiveness or its ability to kill. How about .22 center fire?
Quote from: Squidward on April 15, 2016, 10:43:41 AMGrowing up we raised cows. shot pretty much all of them dead, with a single round(not the same single round LOL) from a 22lr. I seen a deer on the run hit behind the last rib and die on the spot with a 22lr. It will KILL.The question is not whether 22 will kill. a BB gun can kill. a pencil can kill. the question is whether or not a .22lr is adequate for self defense. in a self defense scenario your concern is STOPPING the attacker as quickly as possible (obviously he may die). 22lr is not adequate for self defense on the grounds its unreliable ammunition compared to center fire. we don't need to argue the grounds of effectiveness or its ability to kill.
Growing up we raised cows. shot pretty much all of them dead, with a single round(not the same single round LOL) from a 22lr. I seen a deer on the run hit behind the last rib and die on the spot with a 22lr. It will KILL.
Quote from: huntnphool on April 15, 2016, 11:21:56 AMQuote from: Mongo Hunter on April 15, 2016, 11:18:55 AMQuote from: Squidward on April 15, 2016, 10:43:41 AMGrowing up we raised cows. shot pretty much all of them dead, with a single round(not the same single round LOL) from a 22lr. I seen a deer on the run hit behind the last rib and die on the spot with a 22lr. It will KILL.The question is not whether 22 will kill. a BB gun can kill. a pencil can kill. the question is whether or not a .22lr is adequate for self defense. in a self defense scenario your concern is STOPPING the attacker as quickly as possible (obviously he may die). 22lr is not adequate for self defense on the grounds its unreliable ammunition compared to center fire. we don't need to argue the grounds of effectiveness or its ability to kill. How about .22 center fire? if you have a 5.56mm pistol have at er lol
Quote from: Mongo Hunter on April 15, 2016, 11:24:04 AMQuote from: huntnphool on April 15, 2016, 11:21:56 AMQuote from: Mongo Hunter on April 15, 2016, 11:18:55 AMQuote from: Squidward on April 15, 2016, 10:43:41 AMGrowing up we raised cows. shot pretty much all of them dead, with a single round(not the same single round LOL) from a 22lr. I seen a deer on the run hit behind the last rib and die on the spot with a 22lr. It will KILL.The question is not whether 22 will kill. a BB gun can kill. a pencil can kill. the question is whether or not a .22lr is adequate for self defense. in a self defense scenario your concern is STOPPING the attacker as quickly as possible (obviously he may die). 22lr is not adequate for self defense on the grounds its unreliable ammunition compared to center fire. we don't need to argue the grounds of effectiveness or its ability to kill. How about .22 center fire? if you have a 5.56mm pistol have at er lol Effective for personal protection?
Quote from: Mongo Hunter on April 15, 2016, 11:24:04 AMQuote from: huntnphool on April 15, 2016, 11:21:56 AMQuote from: Mongo Hunter on April 15, 2016, 11:18:55 AMQuote from: Squidward on April 15, 2016, 10:43:41 AMGrowing up we raised cows. shot pretty much all of them dead, with a single round(not the same single round LOL) from a 22lr. I seen a deer on the run hit behind the last rib and die on the spot with a 22lr. It will KILL.The question is not whether 22 will kill. a BB gun can kill. a pencil can kill. the question is whether or not a .22lr is adequate for self defense. in a self defense scenario your concern is STOPPING the attacker as quickly as possible (obviously he may die). 22lr is not adequate for self defense on the grounds its unreliable ammunition compared to center fire. we don't need to argue the grounds of effectiveness or its ability to kill. How about .22 center fire? if you have a 5.56mm pistol have at er lol.22 TCM
Quote from: grundy53 on April 15, 2016, 11:38:03 AMQuote from: Mongo Hunter on April 15, 2016, 11:24:04 AMQuote from: huntnphool on April 15, 2016, 11:21:56 AMQuote from: Mongo Hunter on April 15, 2016, 11:18:55 AMQuote from: Squidward on April 15, 2016, 10:43:41 AMGrowing up we raised cows. shot pretty much all of them dead, with a single round(not the same single round LOL) from a 22lr. I seen a deer on the run hit behind the last rib and die on the spot with a 22lr. It will KILL.The question is not whether 22 will kill. a BB gun can kill. a pencil can kill. the question is whether or not a .22lr is adequate for self defense. in a self defense scenario your concern is STOPPING the attacker as quickly as possible (obviously he may die). 22lr is not adequate for self defense on the grounds its unreliable ammunition compared to center fire. we don't need to argue the grounds of effectiveness or its ability to kill. How about .22 center fire? if you have a 5.56mm pistol have at er lol.22 TCM 5.7x28..........but I do have a 5.56/223 as well.
Quote from: huntnphool on April 15, 2016, 11:51:14 AMQuote from: grundy53 on April 15, 2016, 11:38:03 AMQuote from: Mongo Hunter on April 15, 2016, 11:24:04 AMQuote from: huntnphool on April 15, 2016, 11:21:56 AMQuote from: Mongo Hunter on April 15, 2016, 11:18:55 AMQuote from: Squidward on April 15, 2016, 10:43:41 AMGrowing up we raised cows. shot pretty much all of them dead, with a single round(not the same single round LOL) from a 22lr. I seen a deer on the run hit behind the last rib and die on the spot with a 22lr. It will KILL.The question is not whether 22 will kill. a BB gun can kill. a pencil can kill. the question is whether or not a .22lr is adequate for self defense. in a self defense scenario your concern is STOPPING the attacker as quickly as possible (obviously he may die). 22lr is not adequate for self defense on the grounds its unreliable ammunition compared to center fire. we don't need to argue the grounds of effectiveness or its ability to kill. How about .22 center fire? if you have a 5.56mm pistol have at er lol.22 TCM 5.7x28..........but I do have a 5.56/223 as well. The .22 TCM is going about 2800 FPS.the 5.7 is going 2300-2800 FPS depending on load and barrel.the .22lr is 1200FPS at best...not even in the same league guys com on lol.22lr is not adequate period
Quote from: Mongo Hunter on April 15, 2016, 11:55:41 AMQuote from: huntnphool on April 15, 2016, 11:51:14 AMQuote from: grundy53 on April 15, 2016, 11:38:03 AMQuote from: Mongo Hunter on April 15, 2016, 11:24:04 AMQuote from: huntnphool on April 15, 2016, 11:21:56 AMQuote from: Mongo Hunter on April 15, 2016, 11:18:55 AMQuote from: Squidward on April 15, 2016, 10:43:41 AMGrowing up we raised cows. shot pretty much all of them dead, with a single round(not the same single round LOL) from a 22lr. I seen a deer on the run hit behind the last rib and die on the spot with a 22lr. It will KILL.The question is not whether 22 will kill. a BB gun can kill. a pencil can kill. the question is whether or not a .22lr is adequate for self defense. in a self defense scenario your concern is STOPPING the attacker as quickly as possible (obviously he may die). 22lr is not adequate for self defense on the grounds its unreliable ammunition compared to center fire. we don't need to argue the grounds of effectiveness or its ability to kill. How about .22 center fire? if you have a 5.56mm pistol have at er lol.22 TCM 5.7x28..........but I do have a 5.56/223 as well. The .22 TCM is going about 2800 FPS.the 5.7 is going 2300-2800 FPS depending on load and barrel.the .22lr is 1200FPS at best...not even in the same league guys com on lol.22lr is not adequate period The OP did not specify "lr", I never suggested it was.
Quote from: huntnphool on April 15, 2016, 12:01:17 PMQuote from: Mongo Hunter on April 15, 2016, 11:55:41 AMQuote from: huntnphool on April 15, 2016, 11:51:14 AMQuote from: grundy53 on April 15, 2016, 11:38:03 AMQuote from: Mongo Hunter on April 15, 2016, 11:24:04 AMQuote from: huntnphool on April 15, 2016, 11:21:56 AMQuote from: Mongo Hunter on April 15, 2016, 11:18:55 AMQuote from: Squidward on April 15, 2016, 10:43:41 AMGrowing up we raised cows. shot pretty much all of them dead, with a single round(not the same single round LOL) from a 22lr. I seen a deer on the run hit behind the last rib and die on the spot with a 22lr. It will KILL.The question is not whether 22 will kill. a BB gun can kill. a pencil can kill. the question is whether or not a .22lr is adequate for self defense. in a self defense scenario your concern is STOPPING the attacker as quickly as possible (obviously he may die). 22lr is not adequate for self defense on the grounds its unreliable ammunition compared to center fire. we don't need to argue the grounds of effectiveness or its ability to kill. How about .22 center fire? if you have a 5.56mm pistol have at er lol.22 TCM 5.7x28..........but I do have a 5.56/223 as well. The .22 TCM is going about 2800 FPS.the 5.7 is going 2300-2800 FPS depending on load and barrel.the .22lr is 1200FPS at best...not even in the same league guys com on lol.22lr is not adequate period The OP did not specify "lr", I never suggested it was. you are right they didn't specify but that's the normal caliber that people ask about considering the amount of handguns chambered in 5.7, 5.56 and .22TCM or lack there of.
just want to say that the OP was for a 22 for defense...not could it kill something with enough rounds put into it...hell if i was hit by a car and slung into a ditch someone could probably put me down eventually with a wrist rocket...sure if all you have to protect yourself is 36 grains than ok but if you're gonna pack at least have something that can do the job and not tick someone off.....