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Re: Baiting Restrictions
« Reply #45 on: May 13, 2016, 09:46:39 AM »
Well, I can cross White Pass Outfitters off my list of outfitters to use.  :o
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Re: Baiting Restrictions
« Reply #46 on: May 13, 2016, 09:48:26 AM »
Me too

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Re: Baiting Restrictions
« Reply #47 on: May 13, 2016, 09:48:47 AM »

WHATS YOUR KILL % BET MINES HIGHER

Thats pretty damn childish there. 

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Re: Baiting Restrictions
« Reply #48 on: May 13, 2016, 09:53:57 AM »
Okay, so if you all feel baiting is ok,why was there such a public outcry when 2 native Americans went to oak creek feed station (bait station) and killed two bulls while they were eating hay. I really dont see much of a difference or can you explain the difference to me.
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Re: Baiting Restrictions
« Reply #49 on: May 13, 2016, 09:58:20 AM »
This thread is about exploring what is or isn't legal regarding the new laws.  It's not about the ethics of baiting, we've hashed that over and over and beat it to death  :beatdeadhorse:


Let's keep this thread ON TOPIC please.

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Re: Baiting Restrictions
« Reply #50 on: May 13, 2016, 09:59:00 AM »
Well, I can cross White Pass Outfitters off my list of outfitters to use.  :o
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I was going to argue with his ignorant statements - but a better path would be for all of us to alert friends, family, and colleagues that White Pass Outfitters supports taking hunting opportunities away from sportsmen and do not book with them. 
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Re: Baiting Restrictions
« Reply #51 on: May 13, 2016, 09:59:28 AM »
Don't limit others freedom just because it doesn't affect you personally. I have never baited, but I am strongly pro baiting.  I also bought my first ever blind this winter, and plan to do a little late season archery baiting so my 3 year old son can come along and watch me shoot a deer.
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Re: Baiting Restrictions
« Reply #52 on: May 13, 2016, 10:05:36 AM »
I don't think people should be able to guide in wilderness areas or do drop camps. DIY only

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Re: Baiting Restrictions
« Reply #53 on: May 13, 2016, 10:09:52 AM »
OK, SO YOUR SAYING A DROP CAMP IN THE WILDERNESS IS NOT A FAIR CHASE HUNT.
BUT HUNTING OVER A FEEDER IS. I GUESS I WILL NEVER UNDERSTAND YOU WEST SIDERS. ALL AN OUTFITTER DOES IS HELP YOUR ODDS OF GETTING YOUR GAME WITHOUT HAVING TO LOWER YOUR STANDERS BY HUNTING OVER A FEEDER. AND I AGREE DIY HUNTING IS THE BEST WAY IF YOU KNOW WHERE AND WHEN TO GO AND MOST IMPORTANT IF YOU CAN GET YOUR ANIMAL OUT BEFORE IT STARTS TO SPOIL.
FAIR CHASE WILDERNESS HUNTS ONLY FOR THE REAL HUNTER !!!
WHATS YOUR KILL % BET MINES HIGHER
Careful insulting the westsiders. You probably have a fair % of your hunters coming from the westside.
Just throwing that out there.
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Re: Baiting Restrictions
« Reply #54 on: May 13, 2016, 10:10:30 AM »
Well, I can cross White Pass Outfitters off my list of outfitters to use.  :o
:yeah:
I was going to argue with his ignorant statements - but a better path would be for all of us to alert friends, family, and colleagues that White Pass Outfitters supports taking hunting opportunities away from sportsmen and do not book with them.

Yeah. Amazing that a business owner would bash westside people, bash anyone who baits, and claims you are not a real hunter unless you hunt wilderness. 

I don't bait......too much work. And truck load of apples does probably seem wrong.  So, the new rules seem reasonable limiting the amount of bait.

I do enjoy a wilderness hunt once in a while.  I think maybe I wasn't a real hunter on the few hunts where I've used an outfitter to do a drop camp.  If I were a real hunter I would have packed in all by myself.
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Re: Baiting Restrictions
« Reply #55 on: May 13, 2016, 10:12:15 AM »
Baiting for DEER AND ELK has only gave hunters a bad look for non hunters.
Any time I see a deer standing under a feeder and a hunter in a blind watching over that feeder it makes me cringe. Whoever thinks this is hunting you should look up the definition of FAIR CHASE HUNTING. I wont even watch hunting shows that hunt over feeders or food plots. This is not hunting but sitting on your ass waiting for the animals to enter the food plot. You might as well hunt your neighbors cows when the farmer feeds them!!! Im sure this will cause a lot of back lash, but dont really care.
FAIR CHASE WILDERNESS HUNTS ONLY FOR THE REAL HUNTER !!!

OK, SO YOUR SAYING A DROP CAMP IN THE WILDERNESS IS NOT A FAIR CHASE HUNT.
BUT HUNTING OVER A FEEDER IS. I GUESS I WILL NEVER UNDERSTAND YOU WEST SIDERS. ALL AN OUTFITTER DOES IS HELP YOUR ODDS OF GETTING YOUR GAME WITHOUT HAVING TO LOWER YOUR STANDERS BY HUNTING OVER A FEEDER. AND I AGREE DIY HUNTING IS THE BEST WAY IF YOU KNOW WHERE AND WHEN TO GO AND MOST IMPORTANT IF YOU CAN GET YOUR ANIMAL OUT BEFORE IT STARTS TO SPOIL.
FAIR CHASE WILDERNESS HUNTS ONLY FOR THE REAL HUNTER !!!
WHATS YOUR KILL % BET MINES HIGHER

What about disabled hunters?
What about elderly hunters?
What about youth hunters just starting to hunt?
What about hunters who are not comfortable trekking miles into the wilderness?
What if you don't own horses or even like horses?
What about bear, cougar, upland bird, or waterfowl hunters?
What about game management in the other 96% of Washington that isn't wilderness?
Many of our best hunting opportunities are on private lands close to small communities in all four states where we operate?
Some of the best elk and deer hunting I've seen is in the midst of oil and gas fields?

At Bearpaw Outfitters we offer horseback in camps, drive in camps, lodge or cabin based hunts, or motel based hunts. We invite anyone to do any of our many different types of hunts. If you want to hunt remote country we've got the horses and remote forest service approved campsites, we've got private ranch hunts, and if you can't or don't want to walk much we'll be glad to take you on a hunt in 4x4 trucks or UTV's. We also hunt with blinds, trailcams, food plots, farm fields, and feeders where legal, as well as in remote mountain areas. We proudly offer hunts to anyone, including seniors, youth, mobility impaired, or mentally impaired, anyone who simply wants a chance for a successful hunt.

For DIY hunters we offer DIY Hunting maps to good hunting areas in four western states and hope to expand that soon. We understand that many hunters want to DIY but may want a little extra info on where to go to save time and increase odds.



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Re: Baiting Restrictions
« Reply #56 on: May 13, 2016, 10:22:15 AM »
You are right, did not mean to put all westsiders in one group. I just think everyone can and should be able to have there opinion heard, it doesnt mean im right or wrong just difference of opinions. And as far as saying you wont booked with wpo thats probably a good thing, because I only believe in fair chase hunts.  And bearpaw if you read all the thread, you would see I pack in many elderly and disabled hunters and working on a harness to make it easyer to help more get into the back country. Remember bear paw its just my opinon.
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Re: Baiting Restrictions
« Reply #57 on: May 13, 2016, 10:24:16 AM »
OK, SO YOUR SAYING A DROP CAMP IN THE WILDERNESS IS NOT A FAIR CHASE HUNT.
BUT HUNTING OVER A FEEDER IS. I GUESS I WILL NEVER UNDERSTAND YOU WEST SIDERS. ALL AN OUTFITTER DOES IS HELP YOUR ODDS OF GETTING YOUR GAME WITHOUT HAVING TO LOWER YOUR STANDERS BY HUNTING OVER A FEEDER. AND I AGREE DIY HUNTING IS THE BEST WAY IF YOU KNOW WHERE AND WHEN TO GO AND MOST IMPORTANT IF YOU CAN GET YOUR ANIMAL OUT BEFORE IT STARTS TO SPOIL.
FAIR CHASE WILDERNESS HUNTS ONLY FOR THE REAL HUNTER !!!
WHATS YOUR KILL % BET MINES HIGHER

What about disabled hunters?
What about elderly hunters?
What about youth hunters just starting to hunt?
What about hunters who are not comfortable trekking miles into the wilderness?
What if you don't own horses or even like horses?
What about bear, cougar, upland bird, or waterfowl hunters?
What about game management in the other 96% of Washington that isn't wilderness?
Many of our best hunting opportunities are on private lands close to small communities in all four states where we operate?
Some of the best elk and deer hunting I've seen is in the midst of oil and gas fields?

At Bearpaw Outfitters we offer horseback in camps, drive in camps, lodge or cabin based hunts, or motel based hunts. We invite anyone to do any of our many different types of hunts. If you want to hunt remote country we've got the horses and remote forest service approved campsites, we've got private ranch hunts, and if you can't or don't want to walk much we'll be glad to take you on a hunt in 4x4 trucks or UTV's. We also hunt with blinds, trailcams, food plots, farm fields, and feeders where legal, as well as in remote mountain areas. We proudly offer hunts to anyone, including seniors, youth, mobility impaired, or mentally impaired, anyone who simply wants a chance for a successful hunt.

For DIY hunters we offer DIY Hunting Maps to good hunting areas in four western states and hope to expand that soon. We understand that many hunters want to DIY but may want a little extra info on where to go to save time and increase odds.

I have not used an outfitter for any of my hunts. But I think I know which outfitter above I would go with when I decide to.
I will Pass on White pass outfitters.

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Re: Baiting Restrictions
« Reply #58 on: May 13, 2016, 10:29:57 AM »
FAIR CHASE WILDERNESS HUNTS ONLY FOR THE REAL HUNTER,  IS MY MOTTO, JUST LIKE NIKE'S JUST DO IT. DOESNT MEAN WE ARE ALL GOING TO BE DOING IT ON THE STREESTS. iTS JUST A SAYING.
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Re: Baiting Restrictions
« Reply #59 on: May 13, 2016, 10:30:35 AM »
well said Bearpaw. Its all hunting just different methods I have shot lots of bears over bait and packed into wilderness areas for elk hunts. Shot deer coming into alfalfa field and rattled in big bucks in the mountains.I use dogs to tree game.  I love it all and its all hunting.  Anyone hunting legally is a real hunter.

 


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