Arrow experts, give me your input.

[theleo]

Give me your input on an arrow setup like this,

Shaft: BE Spartan 300 spine cut to 28.5" (9.0 GPI)

Nock: R-nock (10grains) + R-nock bushing (10 grains)

Wrap: 7" reflective Onestringer (11 grains)

Fletching: 4 fletch with 1.5" Vanetec HP's (3.2 grains each) using an Arizone EZ fletch (lots of helical)

Point: 125 grain Broad head (thinking 1.5" Anarchy's this year) + 28 grain insert.

This will be shot out of my Perfexion that's at 74lb, 28" rite now and will be used for elk. Yay or nay? Should be end up rite at or just under 460 grains total when you factor in a few grains for glue. I know that the answer is ultimately  try it and see, but just looking to what the group consensus might be.

[mburrows]

We shoot dang near identical set ups except i use 3.5" wraps and 3 fletch vs 4 fletch.
I just started using the BE spartans and they are flying great.

[Smoke]

why the 4 fletch... ya want to better effect of the helical, I use 3 inch vanes 3 fletch...better spin, less drag..

[RadSav]

Looks good to me.  Not thrilled about the 1.5" vane but as you said "try it and see".  I do have a few questions though -

Q:  Why shoot 28.5" arrows with a draw length of 28"?

Q:  Why use a 7" wrap with 1.5" or 2" vanes?

[theleo]

why the 4 fletch... ya want to better effect of the helical, I use 3 inch vanes 3 fletch...better spin, less drag..

I 4 fletch my arrows so it doesn't matter how I nock them, no cock vane to have to worry about.

[theleo]

Looks good to me.  Not thrilled about the 1.5" vane but as you said "try it and see".  I do have a few questions though -

Q:  Why shoot 28.5" arrows with a draw length of 28"?

Q:  Why use a 7" wrap with 1.5" or 2" vanes?

My current arrows are a shade over 28.5" and put the arrows just a little bit out past the front of my riser, 28.5" should bring them about even with the front and give a little room should I want to play with my draw length.

I got 7" wraps so there's more reflective area to them and they are custom graphics for my mom and aunt who have had cancer. I wanted the graphic to be long enough to make out. 

[RadSav]

Looks good to me.  Not thrilled about the 1.5" vane but as you said "try it and see".  I do have a few questions though -

Q:  Why shoot 28.5" arrows with a draw length of 28"?

Q:  Why use a 7" wrap with 1.5" or 2" vanes?

My current arrows are a shade over 28.5" and put the arrows just a little bit out past the front of my riser, 28.5" should bring them about even with the front and give a little room should I want to play with my draw length.

I got 7" wraps so there's more reflective area to them and they are custom graphics for my mom and aunt who have had cancer. I wanted the graphic to be long enough to make out.

Sounds like your bow is not really 28".  Might want that checked out.  Beyond that...looks good

[theleo]

Sounds like your bow is not really 28".  Might want that checked out.  Beyond that...looks good

I've never known a manufacturer to be dead on with what the draw length is supposed to be. It has mods for 28" on it, the limb stops are where they're supposed to be and the reference marks on the cams are all matching up. I could comfortably shoot it set longer with a trigger release but having it a little short works better for me shooting it with my back tension.

Onestringer sure are easy folks to deal with.


 

[RadSav]

I've never known a manufacturer to be dead on with what the draw length is supposed to be. It has mods for 28" on it, the limb stops are where they're supposed to be and the reference marks on the cams are all matching up. I could comfortably shoot it set longer with a trigger release but having it a little short works better for me shooting it with my back tension.

Shorter is always better than too long.  Try getting set into your anchor and have someone mark the arrow at the plunger hole.  28" Draw should be 26.25" from bottom of string notch on the nock to that mark.  Xpedition claim to always be dead perfect on draw length.  That's why they keep telling D-Rock he can shoot 27.5 instead of his 27".

True Draw length is one of the very first things I check when receiving a new bow.  Always a good idea to know exactly where it is set.  Otherwise you can never truly measure apples to apples.

[theleo]

I've never known a manufacturer to be dead on with what the draw length is supposed to be. It has mods for 28" on it, the limb stops are where they're supposed to be and the reference marks on the cams are all matching up. I could comfortably shoot it set longer with a trigger release but having it a little short works better for me shooting it with my back tension.

Shorter is always better than too long.  Try getting set into your anchor and have someone mark the arrow at the plunger hole.  28" Draw should be 26.25" from bottom of string notch on the nock to that mark.  Xpedition claim to always be dead perfect on draw length.  That's why they keep telling D-Rock he can shoot 27.5 instead of his 27".

True Draw length is one of the very first things I check when receiving a new bow.  Always a good idea to know exactly where it is set.  Otherwise you can never truly measure apples to apples.

If I had D-Rocks draw length I'd be happy shooting shorter ATA bows, but that would mean I'd have to have short little umpa-loompa arms like him.

[RadSav]

If I had D-Rocks draw length I'd be happy shooting shorter ATA bows, but that would mean I'd have to have short little umpa-loompa arms like him.

There are some benefits!

[Reidus]

Looks good to me.  Not thrilled about the 1.5" vane

Radsav, What vane would you prefer and why? Just curious.

[RadSav]

Looks good to me.  Not thrilled about the 1.5" vane

Radsav, What vane would you prefer and why? Just curious.

Even as a two blade broadhead 1.5" is massive and difficult to control.  Add to that a single bevel in a thick blade and that is a lot of challenge for control on the front of the arrow.  Four short little 1.5" vanes are going to be pushed to their limits trying to overcome the challenge from the front.  A 2" vane is going to give much more control to the back end.  Not sure if it truly equates to 25% more control but it should be close.

Now if the OP were to shoot an expandable or something like our VanDyke the 1.5" vane would be much less of an issue.  Still doesn't leave much room for error, but it would be better.

[BullCrazy24]

theleo-
I tried out the Spartans a few months ago. If you don't mind loosing some speed they are a great choice. With that being said I personally switched back to their carnavors. I lost 16 fps with the extra weight of the Spartans. My draw length is a 1\2 in shorter than yours and i  shoot a 26in. arrow. I would check out black eagle carnivore .001 and give Randy or his team a call. They were very helpfull and knowledgeable when I made the switch over. (855) 448-6823

[theleo]

Looks good to me.  Not thrilled about the 1.5" vane

Radsav, What vane would you prefer and why? Just curious.

Even as a two blade broadhead 1.5" is massive and difficult to control.  Add to that a single bevel in a thick blade and that is a lot of challenge for control on the front of the arrow.  Four short little 1.5" vanes are going to be pushed to their limits trying to overcome the challenge from the front.  A 2" vane is going to give much more control to the back end.  Not sure if it truly equates to 25% more control but it should be close.

Now if the OP were to shoot an expandable or something like our VanDyke the 1.5" vane would be much less of an issue.  Still doesn't leave much room for error, but it would be better.

The 1.5" vanes I'm not entirely sure of either especially with my broadhead choice. I have a pile of 2" Vanetec vanes to use should the 1.5's not work. I've looked at your broadheads online but from what I understand from reading on here is they are only sold through archery shops and not online. I don't have a retailer near me that I can find, so it rules them out. I head over to Idaho for my hunting so even if I wanted to use mechanicals they're still against the law there. I do appreciate your input though.