How to train WEYCO to raise their fees?

[Goshawk]

How to train WEYCO to raise their fees?

Easy.

You sell out $240,000.00 of Vail Permits in under 5 minutes.

Nice going everyone who participated.  Fees will go higher until the market can no longer afford the fees, and thus hunting gets another nail in it's coffin.  This is doing more damage to outdoor sports than Greenpeace could dream of.

Just my  worth,
Goshawk

[kentrek]

.  This is doing more damage to outdoor sports than Greenpeace could dream of.

 

Spot on...i can't even count how many young people I know stopped the sport due to this...we are pricing our selves out of a Heritage

[MountainWalk]

 

[PolarBear]

 

[Skyvalhunter]

Your concern is appreciated!!

[Magnum_Willys]

You sell out $240,000.00 of Vail Permits in under 5 minutes.

They count their pennies so some bean counter has to be drooling......
A) raise prices tick off people
B) add another 500 permits.....

[DIYARCHERYJUNKIE]

Really condem those who buy the permits...     that's worse than green peace.  That turns sportsmen and women against each other, cost us our hunting land and gets the big timber richer.  Those that buy the permits are mostly only doing so to hunt.  Not to profit or lock you out.  That's already being done by the timber companies.  They will keep increasing prices and getting tax breaks for letting the PUBLIC access their land. Which they hardly do. The public pays for the roads that make the tree farms drivable through taxes.  With the agreement that the public will have access to the land.  So yes we got the long end but don't blame one another.

[pianoman9701]

I agree with DIY.  The target of your ire should be big timber, not each other. 

[DIYARCHERYJUNKIE]

Long time no talk p man.  How ya been? Getting ready for elk again I hope?

We are a group of one. SPORTSMEN AND WOMEN.  Let's unite and come up with ways to change big timbers policies.  Gain access to more land and make any permit areas manageable for us. (More permits less fees).  I think wdfw and weryhauser are both good starting points.

What's funny to me is wdfw enforcment spending all year checking permits at the gates for weryhauser. more tax dollars wasted and lots of illegal hunting going on away from the gates.  Good excuse to sit and listen to the Hawks all afternoon rather than actively perusing poachers.

[Skyvalhunter]

So he has a nice Dodge 3500?

[brew]

Adapt or die

[pianoman9701]

Whine whine whine.  If you don't want to pay to hunt private land then don't.  Just dont get too high and mighty about "our" hunting heritage.  Mine is doing just fine thanks.

Maybe re-purpose some money from that jacked up Dodge 3500 driving around Tacoma into a access pass, or don't its up to you.  Just don't complain too loudly about pricing hunting out of the means of the people.

Well, as long as you're doing just fine, I guess that's all that matters. 

[JimmyHoffa]

I would say somewhat to be relieved they haven't gone into full lease mode yet.  At least with the permits you can all keep pounding the same ground and it isn't a bidding war yet.  Once the timber companies figure out they'll make even more money by switching to a lease managed by an outfitter, the permits likely won't be available anymore.  And then even the permit guys are out of luck.

[Skyvalhunter]

Weyco already has some of there property up to bid on for lease. It could possibly all be going to that.

[JimmyHoffa]

  Nowhere in WA is the hunting that good to support that kind of investment without a lot of users.

I don't know but a couple areas in WA where animals are managed to get close to having densities or size to make for the universal term of 'that good'.  I know there are a few tree farms that raffle off access permits for elk season, one of which is ten permits a year.  The bulls survive over the years and have grown to be some pretty big critters.  And guys pay outfitters $5K or more per person to hunt the USFS land next door for low odds on even getting a 3 pt.  For the case of vail and deer, I don't know of any attempts to shape buck to doe ratios or antler selection culling.