Ford 6.0 liter turbo diesel engine?

[Skillet]

 

Happy, what were the ECT/EOT deltas when the oil coolers blew in your trucks?

99% of the people buying these trucks don't have the slightest clue what that even means, nevermind that it's something that they should be aware of.
Really, 90% of them wouldn't even care if they did know. Most folks want to know their truck starts and stops. Beyond that, that's what shops are for.
Fix it when it breaks. It may not be logical, but I think it's true based on being surrounded by it 10 hours a day, 5-6 days a week.
 

Thats my point.  If someone is considering a 6.0 truck they owe it to themselves to do a little research to sort the chaff from the wheat in terms of info they get on the net.  There are a lot of uneducated, unhappy former 6.0 owners out there who propagate the bad info.
Bottom line is they are not inherently bad engines, and can actually be very good if the basic maintenance is done per spec, they are not hot rodded, and bad oil cooler / EGR cooler design Ford forced on a good International engine is actually paid attention to.  With D-Rock considering a 6.0, I'm trying to illustrate the point that there is some work pre-purchase and maintenance wise, but with basic care and common sense these engines are not the time bombs they are made out to be.  And with the negative public perception of them, you can get a helluva deal on a good truck.
 

[jackelope]

 

Happy, what were the ECT/EOT deltas when the oil coolers blew in your trucks?

99% of the people buying these trucks don't have the slightest clue what that even means, nevermind that it's something that they should be aware of.
Really, 90% of them wouldn't even care if they did know. Most folks want to know their truck starts and stops. Beyond that, that's what shops are for.
Fix it when it breaks. It may not be logical, but I think it's true based on being surrounded by it 10 hours a day, 5-6 days a week.
 

Thats my point.  If someone is considering a 6.0 truck they owe it to themselves to do a little research to sort the chaff from the wheat in terms of info they get on the net.  There are a lot of uneducated, unhappy former 6.0 owners out there who propagate the bad info.
Bottom line is they are not inherently bad engines, and can actually be very good if the basic maintenance is done per spec, they are not hot rodded, and bad oil cooler / EGR cooler design Ford forced on a good International engine is actually paid attention to.  With D-Rock considering a 6.0, I'm trying to illustrate the point that there is some work pre-purchase and maintenance wise, but with basic care and common sense these engines are not the time bombs they are made out to be.  And with the negative public perception of them, you can get a helluva deal on a good truck.
 

Biggest problem I see with that is not knowing what's been done to the extremely used truck you're going to find at this stage in the game. With the newest 6.0 available being almost 10 years old, I'd only buy one with low miles and maintenance records...which means he'll have to find an owner like you who knows what they're doing, who takes care of their truck and who keeps track of all of that stuff. Oh and one that hasn't been modified. It's a big risk and you're going to have a hard time finding that right truck. Even with what's considered low miles, it will be over 100k miles unless you find that rare truck with super low miles on it that someone's grandpa owned.  Personally I think they will inherently have problems. I've seen enough of them to be scared of them....

[whacker1]

Family member lost a head gasket & turbo on a 2006 duramax in the last month.....labor call for head gasket is 35 hours.....110,000 miles on it. 

Labor time for both head gaskets is 35.6 hours. At $140 per hour, which is local going rate here, that's $5k just in labor.
Yikes.

They all have issues, some of which can be really expensive.

Yep and turbo is toast as well.  luckily the labor rate in his area is closer to $100 per hour

[Miles]

I just picked up a 2016 duramax yesterday.  Hopefully with regular maintenance it will last me a LONG time.  The power and smoothness is amazing.

With all the mods these days and people doing there own performance stuff, I just didn't want someone else's problem...  Might as well spend a little more and know what you're getting.

[sirmissalot]

I'll never own another Ford after having a 6.0, no way in heck I'd ever tell someone to buy one I don't care how cheap it is.

[Happy Gilmore]

I wouldnt do that until it needs to be done.  The more important first task is to determine what shape the oil cooler is in first by running a simple test with a ScanGuage II (or similar diagnostic tool).  I'd consider that a pre-purchase requirement.  So much easy-to-find, good info out on the web on this issue and testing procedure. 

Happy, what were the ECT/EOT deltas when the oil coolers blew in your trucks?

No idea. We emptied the fleet completely by 2008 when we switched to Duramax's. We drive mainly from Nodak to California and everywhere in between pulling a 12-14K trailer every mile. Guys get in the trucks, drive them 5,000 miles and get the oil changed religiously. Our Superintendents are responsible to keep the basic maintenance done on the road. In 2006 I had three oil coolers blow in one week. I remember it well. working at Colstrip, MT one went down, Short Mountain Landfill another went down and the third was in Sparks, NV. The one in Montana had to get shipped to Missoula for repair(common to diesels in Montana, few qualified guys at local shops and dealers can work on them for some reason).

New DEF running Chevy's have been interesting. We sent one with just over 100K miles to the junk yard after the main crank bearing evaporated recently.

Owner won't buy any Dodges after having a few in the 1990's. He pays the bills so, his choice there...

[mud]

I have an 05 I picked up with 70k.  Now has 130k.  It's such a pile of crap, I had to replace the FICM for $300 once. 

I was told that if you drive it hard, it eliminates "all" potential problems.  That must be somewhat true as I drive the hell out of it.

[jackelope]

I have an 05 I picked up with 70k.  Now has 130k.  It's such a pile of crap, I had to replace the FICM for $300 once. 

I was told that if you drive it hard, it eliminates "all" potential problems.  That must be somewhat true as I drive the hell out of it.

$300 is dirt cheap for a FICM.

[MADMAX]

I dont think he could find the sarcasm imogi

[jackelope]

I dont think he could find the sarcasm imogi

I was in the middle. Wasn't sure where he was at.

[Happy Gilmore]

I lied, i just went out to the shop and see the 06 F-450 flat bed backing in as a reminder. A lone survivor. I think it's only been down once after a salesman put about $10 of unleaded into it when it was was empty. Another time I was using it to cut and haul firewood home and blew a turbo hose off but, that wasn't a big deal. Been fine ever since. Maybe that is the solution to keeping them running good? run it on unleaded???  It's pushing 260K.

[Special T]

Happy the chevy blew the motor because DEF likely found its way into the fuel tank. I know a guy that did that with a brand new Kenworth.... ooops

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[notsosneaky]

Love my 2005 6.0
A bypass oil filter with amsoil and a egr cooler delete made the truck fantastic.

[jackelope]

Love my 2005 6.0
A bypass oil filter with amsoil and a egr cooler delete made the truck fantastic.

You still have oil coolers and FICM's to fail...maybe some ball joints and/or a turbo. That's the problem with those trucks. Lots of stuff to go wrong.

[Skillet]

What 4wd diesel truck doesn't have ball joints, turbos or oil coolers now-a-days?  If it's mechanical, it can break.

Since it appears D-Rock has bailed on the 6.0 purchase, I suppose the point is moot.  Hoping the fear-mongering of 6.0 starts to subside a bit soon when people who are willingly engaged with the maintenance and monitoring responsobilities start buying these trucks up with a deep discount.