Ford 6.0 liter turbo diesel engine?

[Special T]

If you factor in the money for the inevitable issues they can be great motors after all the upgrades and fixes to the design
If that is you're willing to deal with the work or have the wallet
( head gaskets, oil cooler, egr delete, icp ,ipr, bad injectors, glow plug harnesses )

most of those issues problems stem from overheating the oil and it breaking down quicker with less filtration. If you were to set a 7.3 next to a 6.0 with similar miles and price id say go the 7.3 all day long and then some...

You will notice however than pre emissions diesels are going for a premium because all the crap that is out there now.

[papisjeep]

agreed i would take a 7.3 > 6.0 any day of the week

[demontang]

It's funny my father in law had a 2005 6.0 all stock go 300k with no problems. But wasn't lifted wasn't chipped and was maintained very well.the 6.0 sees more problems because of tuners and chips then anything. Stay away from a truck that has been chipped or had a tuner on it.

[Happy Gilmore]

upgrade the oil cooler first it WILL fail and usually when you are pulling something. That happened on every one of them in the old 6.0 fleet.

[Skillet]

I wouldnt do that until it needs to be done.  The more important first task is to determine what shape the oil cooler is in first by running a simple test with a ScanGuage II (or similar diagnostic tool).  I'd consider that a pre-purchase requirement.  So much easy-to-find, good info out on the web on this issue and testing procedure. 

Happy, what were the ECT/EOT deltas when the oil coolers blew in your trucks?

[Mudman]

The old phrase K.I.S.S.  Why mess with the headache.  Buy a cummins or even a duramax and stay away from the newer stuff-its not better.  They all have issues but cummins will be the cheapest and most reliable period...  I had 2001 7.3 and I loved it however it wasn't cheap.  Repairs killed me.  My Cummins has been rock solid and cheap rare repairs.  Ford list of repairs were-Injectors, glow plugs, relays, sensors, 2 auto trans.  U joints, Fuel system flush and such.  Valve cover inj. harness. PCM. $$$$$  Cummins- Ball joints, u joints, Steering box, pitman. Brake calipers.  The truck falls apart around the engine with Dodge.  6.0 is great engine in its 220-260hp form from international.  Ford pumped it up beyond design(head studs) and threw crappy emmisions on it thus ruined it.  Stay away or you likely will regret it.

[jackelope]

 

Happy, what were the ECT/EOT deltas when the oil coolers blew in your trucks?

99% of the people buying these trucks don't have the slightest clue what that even means, nevermind that it's something that they should be aware of.
Really, 90% of them wouldn't even care if they did know. Most folks want to know their truck starts and stops. Beyond that, that's what shops are for.
Fix it when it breaks. It may not be logical, but I think it's true based on being surrounded by it 10 hours a day, 5-6 days a week.
 

[Woodchuck]

 

Happy, what were the ECT/EOT deltas when the oil coolers blew in your trucks?

99% of the people buying these trucks don't have the slightest clue what that even means, nevermind that it's something that they should be aware of.
Really, 90% of them wouldn't even care if they did know. Most folks want to know their truck starts and stops. Beyond that, that's what shops are for.
Fix it when it breaks. It may not be logical, but I think it's true based on being surrounded by it 10 hours a day, 5-6 days a week.
 

[jackelope]

The old phrase K.I.S.S.  Why mess with the headache.  Buy a cummins or even a duramax and stay away from the newer stuff-its not better.  They all have issues but cummins will be the cheapest and most reliable period...  I had 2001 7.3 and I loved it however it wasn't cheap.  Repairs killed me.  My Cummins has been rock solid and cheap rare repairs.  Ford list of repairs were-Injectors, glow plugs, relays, sensors, 2 auto trans.  U joints, Fuel system flush and such.  Valve cover inj. harness. PCM. $$$$$  Cummins- Ball joints, u joints, Steering box, pitman. Brake calipers.  The truck falls apart around the engine with Dodge.  6.0 is great engine in its 220-260hp form from international.  Ford pumped it up beyond design(head studs) and threw crappy emmisions on it thus ruined it.  Stay away or you likely will regret it.

My experience with this sort of thing is as follows....
I had ~10 years at a Dodge dealership. I almost never sold multi-thousand dollar engine repair work to Cummins customers.  An injection pump here and there, maybe some injectors here and there. The big gravy tickets there on those trucks was front end work, but it was never $5k.
I now have ~3.5 years with Ford.  I have a $3-5k engine related repair going on a truck or multiple trucks pretty much every day I'm here. When I don't have one here, I'm just waiting for one of my construction company fleets to call with a truck down. It's always been bizarre to me why so many commercial businesses love Ford trucks. The only thing I can think of might be the fleet incentives to buy multiple white trucks at a time. I have currently 4 Construction company trucks(same company owns all 4) in my shop, 2 of which are significant diesel engine repairs.
It's been too long since I worked at the Chevy dealership and that was almost before the D-max trucks came out. All the diesel work we did there was the old 6.5TDI engines. No comment there.

[whacker1]

The old phrase K.I.S.S.  Why mess with the headache.  Buy a cummins or even a duramax and stay away from the newer stuff-its not better.  They all have issues but cummins will be the cheapest and most reliable period...  I had 2001 7.3 and I loved it however it wasn't cheap.  Repairs killed me.  My Cummins has been rock solid and cheap rare repairs.  Ford list of repairs were-Injectors, glow plugs, relays, sensors, 2 auto trans.  U joints, Fuel system flush and such.  Valve cover inj. harness. PCM. $$$$$  Cummins- Ball joints, u joints, Steering box, pitman. Brake calipers.  The truck falls apart around the engine with Dodge.  6.0 is great engine in its 220-260hp form from international.  Ford pumped it up beyond design(head studs) and threw crappy emmisions on it thus ruined it.  Stay away or you likely will regret it.

My experience with this sort of thing is as follows....
I had ~10 years at a Dodge dealership. I almost never sold multi-thousand dollar engine repair work to Cummins customers.  An injection pump here and there, maybe some injectors here and there. The big gravy tickets there on those trucks was front end work, but it was never $5k.
I now have ~3.5 years with Ford.  I have a $3-5k engine related repair going on a truck or multiple trucks pretty much every day I'm here. When I don't have one here, I'm just waiting for one of my construction company fleets to call with a truck down. It's always been bizarre to me why so many commercial businesses love Ford trucks. The only thing I can think of might be the fleet incentives to buy multiple white trucks at a time. I have currently 4 Construction company trucks(same company owns all 4) in my shop, 2 of which are significant diesel engine repairs.
It's been too long since I worked at the Chevy dealership and that was almost before the D-max trucks came out. All the diesel work we did there was the old 6.5TDI engines. No comment there.

Which Ford motors of the 4 construction company trucks:  6.0 & 6.4 or are they newer 6.7?

[jackelope]

The old phrase K.I.S.S.  Why mess with the headache.  Buy a cummins or even a duramax and stay away from the newer stuff-its not better.  They all have issues but cummins will be the cheapest and most reliable period...  I had 2001 7.3 and I loved it however it wasn't cheap.  Repairs killed me.  My Cummins has been rock solid and cheap rare repairs.  Ford list of repairs were-Injectors, glow plugs, relays, sensors, 2 auto trans.  U joints, Fuel system flush and such.  Valve cover inj. harness. PCM. $$$$$  Cummins- Ball joints, u joints, Steering box, pitman. Brake calipers.  The truck falls apart around the engine with Dodge.  6.0 is great engine in its 220-260hp form from international.  Ford pumped it up beyond design(head studs) and threw crappy emmisions on it thus ruined it.  Stay away or you likely will regret it.

My experience with this sort of thing is as follows....
I had ~10 years at a Dodge dealership. I almost never sold multi-thousand dollar engine repair work to Cummins customers.  An injection pump here and there, maybe some injectors here and there. The big gravy tickets there on those trucks was front end work, but it was never $5k.
I now have ~3.5 years with Ford.  I have a $3-5k engine related repair going on a truck or multiple trucks pretty much every day I'm here. When I don't have one here, I'm just waiting for one of my construction company fleets to call with a truck down. It's always been bizarre to me why so many commercial businesses love Ford trucks. The only thing I can think of might be the fleet incentives to buy multiple white trucks at a time. I have currently 4 Construction company trucks(same company owns all 4) in my shop, 2 of which are significant diesel engine repairs.
It's been too long since I worked at the Chevy dealership and that was almost before the D-max trucks came out. All the diesel work we did there was the old 6.5TDI engines. No comment there.

Which Ford motors of the 4 construction company trucks:  6.0 & 6.4 or are they newer 6.7?

All of the above.

[whacker1]

Family member lost a head gasket & turbo on a 2006 duramax in the last month.....labor call for head gasket is 35 hours.....110,000 miles on it. 

[whacker1]

The old phrase K.I.S.S.  Why mess with the headache.  Buy a cummins or even a duramax and stay away from the newer stuff-its not better.  They all have issues but cummins will be the cheapest and most reliable period...  I had 2001 7.3 and I loved it however it wasn't cheap.  Repairs killed me.  My Cummins has been rock solid and cheap rare repairs.  Ford list of repairs were-Injectors, glow plugs, relays, sensors, 2 auto trans.  U joints, Fuel system flush and such.  Valve cover inj. harness. PCM. $$$$$  Cummins- Ball joints, u joints, Steering box, pitman. Brake calipers.  The truck falls apart around the engine with Dodge.  6.0 is great engine in its 220-260hp form from international.  Ford pumped it up beyond design(head studs) and threw crappy emmisions on it thus ruined it.  Stay away or you likely will regret it.

My experience with this sort of thing is as follows....
I had ~10 years at a Dodge dealership. I almost never sold multi-thousand dollar engine repair work to Cummins customers.  An injection pump here and there, maybe some injectors here and there. The big gravy tickets there on those trucks was front end work, but it was never $5k.
I now have ~3.5 years with Ford.  I have a $3-5k engine related repair going on a truck or multiple trucks pretty much every day I'm here. When I don't have one here, I'm just waiting for one of my construction company fleets to call with a truck down. It's always been bizarre to me why so many commercial businesses love Ford trucks. The only thing I can think of might be the fleet incentives to buy multiple white trucks at a time. I have currently 4 Construction company trucks(same company owns all 4) in my shop, 2 of which are significant diesel engine repairs.
It's been too long since I worked at the Chevy dealership and that was almost before the D-max trucks came out. All the diesel work we did there was the old 6.5TDI engines. No comment there.

Which Ford motors of the 4 construction company trucks:  6.0 & 6.4 or are they newer 6.7?

All of the above.

6.7 should probably be a separate thread?  I will start a new one, but I want to know what others are experiencing.

[jackelope]

The old phrase K.I.S.S.  Why mess with the headache.  Buy a cummins or even a duramax and stay away from the newer stuff-its not better.  They all have issues but cummins will be the cheapest and most reliable period...  I had 2001 7.3 and I loved it however it wasn't cheap.  Repairs killed me.  My Cummins has been rock solid and cheap rare repairs.  Ford list of repairs were-Injectors, glow plugs, relays, sensors, 2 auto trans.  U joints, Fuel system flush and such.  Valve cover inj. harness. PCM. $$$$$  Cummins- Ball joints, u joints, Steering box, pitman. Brake calipers.  The truck falls apart around the engine with Dodge.  6.0 is great engine in its 220-260hp form from international.  Ford pumped it up beyond design(head studs) and threw crappy emmisions on it thus ruined it.  Stay away or you likely will regret it.

My experience with this sort of thing is as follows....
I had ~10 years at a Dodge dealership. I almost never sold multi-thousand dollar engine repair work to Cummins customers.  An injection pump here and there, maybe some injectors here and there. The big gravy tickets there on those trucks was front end work, but it was never $5k.
I now have ~3.5 years with Ford.  I have a $3-5k engine related repair going on a truck or multiple trucks pretty much every day I'm here. When I don't have one here, I'm just waiting for one of my construction company fleets to call with a truck down. It's always been bizarre to me why so many commercial businesses love Ford trucks. The only thing I can think of might be the fleet incentives to buy multiple white trucks at a time. I have currently 4 Construction company trucks(same company owns all 4) in my shop, 2 of which are significant diesel engine repairs.
It's been too long since I worked at the Chevy dealership and that was almost before the D-max trucks came out. All the diesel work we did there was the old 6.5TDI engines. No comment there.

Which Ford motors of the 4 construction company trucks:  6.0 & 6.4 or are they newer 6.7?

All of the above.

I misread. There's 4 trucks here that a company owns. 2 of them are getting multi-thousand dollar repairs.
One is a 6.7 that the turbo came apart on, grenaded. Metal/shrapnel throughout. It has 120K miles on it. The truck is a F550 and it weighs 20k pounds give or take a little.
The other is a 6.7 that is getting an EGR cooler because it's plugged and it also has fault codes for a DEF/Reductant heater circuit issue. We're waiting for authorization to drop the fuel tank to inspect a harness connector that can only be accessed by removing the fuel tank. The EGR cooler will run about $1k, and we're not sure where the other fault will end up. I'm seeking labor time of 3.5 hours at this time, and parts TBD once we find the problem. The labor may or may not increase, depending on what we find. That repair will likely run at least $2k total.

[jackelope]

Family member lost a head gasket & turbo on a 2006 duramax in the last month.....labor call for head gasket is 35 hours.....110,000 miles on it. 

Labor time for both head gaskets is 35.6 hours. At $140 per hour, which is local going rate here, that's $5k just in labor.
Yikes.

They all have issues, some of which can be really expensive.