poaching of two bulls in the nile

[big rack attack]

i was up hunting in the nile unit  this year and seen two bulls that were poached on the late hunt of archery. they  took the antlers and backstrap off one and the hind qauters ,and the other wasnt touched, the game worden came up and said they were shot with a 22 in the temple .  the  second  bull that was still intact was a big 6x6. this really upsets me.did anybody else here about this.

[KillBilly]

First I've heard of it.

[270Shooter]

 

[bowhuntin]

No but that pisses me off because that is where I hunt.  Where about in the nile did you find them?

[big rack attack]

it was right off the 1706

[MIKEXRAY]

Went up late hunt two years ago in nile with snowmobiles & my hunting buddy. Snow was 4 ft of powder. Cut tracks each morning & followed them to animal. Each one was a huge bull, & you could easily kill them as they didn't move much do to the snow.  We could only shoot cow or spike but fun to see them all. ( 4 or 5 ). Didn't hear about this poaching, that also pisses me off. I think it happens alot more than any of us know. Mike

[wackmaster]

 

[colockumelk]

During the Middles Ages if you were caught poaching the King's deer you would be hung or hunted down.  If you were a member of a rival tribe caught on another tribes hunting grounds they would kill you.  Since elk and deer are considered the property of the state and since a Governor is sort of like a king I think we should go back to how the English handled poachers.   I bet there was alot less poaching going on back then. 

Disclaimer:  For those that do not understand the concept of sarcasm I am not serious in suggesting that we use capital punishment to stop poaching.  But it's an option.

[fc2038]

This is getting pathetic. I am tired of hearing this crap. I mean come on how stupid can you get......

[yajsab]

No wonder when I drew a tag and never saw one.

Hey colockumelk, we should use capital punishment for serious crimes in the city so that our lives will be safer.

[Cascade_Sherpa]

I know the rocky mountain states have a lot stiffer penalties for anyone caught poaching what is considered a "trophy" animal.  The states differ, but it can be an elk with 5 or more points or a deer with 4 or more points.  Not sure if we have that in this state, but I'm all for severe consequences for illegally taking a trophy critter.

[andrew_12gauge]

washington has those same laws if you are caught poaching trophy animals

[buckmaster_wa]

Went up late hunt two years ago in Nile with snowmobiles & my hunting buddy. Snow was 4 ft of powder. Cut tracks each morning & followed them to animal. Each one was a huge bull, & you could easily kill them as they didn't move much do to the snow.  We could only shoot cow or spike but fun to see them all. ( 4 or 5 ). Didn't hear about this poaching, that also pisses me off. I think it happens alot more than any of us know. Mike

This is kinda pathetic I would say. You bow hunt off of a snowmobile. And run the game down to see wether it is a cow or spike so that you can shoot it. I have heard of and seen guys run deer down with quads and rifles, but this is the first I have heard of people running elk down in the late bow season. Either change your post to sound a little better or be ashamed of yourself.

[bowhunterforever]

 

[PolarBear]

Went up late hunt two years ago in Nile with snowmobiles & my hunting buddy. Snow was 4 ft of powder. Cut tracks each morning & followed them to animal. Each one was a huge bull, & you could easily kill them as they didn't move much do to the snow.  We could only shoot cow or spike but fun to see them all. ( 4 or 5 ). Didn't hear about this poaching, that also pisses me off. I think it happens alot more than any of us know. Mike

This is kinda pathetic I would say. You bow hunt off of a snowmobile. And run the game down to see wether it is a cow or spike so that you can shoot it. I have heard of and seen guys run deer down with quads and rifles, but this is the first I have heard of people running elk down in the late bow season. Either change your post to sound a little better or be ashamed of yourself.

[Cascade_Sherpa]

I would also think that it would be illeagle to hunt a big game animal from a snowmobile as well as unethical.  I don't know the exact verbage cause I don't have the regs in front of me but I've read that "pursuing game from vehicle (plane, helicopter, motorcycle, etc.)  is not legal.  Not to mention that irregardless if it was a hunting season or not, chasing elk in "4 ft. of powder just to get a look at them" can exhaust an animal that is already basically starving and worn down.  Now they would become susceptible to cougars, coyotes, poachers, whatever.  Mature bull elk lose a lot of their fat reserves after the rut is over, and only have a limited amount of time to gain some of that back before the winter snow covers much of the feed.  Bad idea!

[hunterofelk]

I'm pretty sure he meant they saw the tracks crossing the road and parked their sleds.  Hard to tell bull or cow in four feet of powder, so a follow-up on foot was needed. When we don't draw the permit, we all know the odds of seeing big bulls at the end of the tracks.  I don't know where you guys got the idea he was running them down.  Lighten up a little!

[Elkslayer]

I agree with hunterofelk, nowhere in his original post does he say he was running the elk down or chasing them with the snowmobile. People need to quit jumping to conclusions so much. Just my 

[MIKEXRAY]

Wow this was shocking to find !!!!!  Obviously we only used the snowmobiles to get to the area we were hunting, same as a truck. It was the hardest hunting I've ever done. We used snowshoes & tracked animals for miles before spotting them. The elk tracks were all made at night & the elk were very far from the road & bedded during the day.  My point was that with the deep snow, poaching of those big bulls would of been easy. Each day I saw huge bulls, all of which were in prime shape. Never saw any elk near the road or from the sled ever. One note : There was trucks with chains, four wheelers & rhinos all hunting up the same road as us. Every single one of those people were road hunting, I was one of the VERY few hunters actually leaving the road & hunting. I just road sleds because I love doing it. Thanks Elkslayer & hunterofelk for giving me the benefit of the doubt. The people that assume I was chasing elk, jumping off my sled & killing bulls have not followed my posts over the last few years in the bowhunting section about how hard I hunt to be successful. Sorry I mentioned sleds, the topic is about poaching. Sorry about the thread jacking. Mike

P.S.  This was the hardest fair chase hunt I've ever done, any of you posting youngsters want to try it this year ?

[Cascade_Sherpa]

I apologize Mike! The post was unclear and you are right, I made unnecessary conclusions. A thousand pardons sir!

[MIKEXRAY]

Thanks for the apology Cascade Sherpa. Buckmaster WA , ( who started this crap ) sent me a pm and kept chastising me about my hunting methods. Some people need to make other people look bad to make their self look better apparently. Hope he grows out of it. Sorry about the thread jacking again, tried to clear it up with pms.  Mike