Looking- New Generation .50 Caliber muzzleloader

[Oh Mah]

Can't blame the sidelock for not going off. Its all user error of loading and not keeping the rifle protected during the hunt.

beg to differ.... hunted muzzy a lot back in the 70's..  CCI #11 caps, and never, never, never had a misfire or hangfire....  pulled it back into service last year to take my grandson out muzzy hunting, had to buy new caps and powder of course... now almost half my shots end up misfires, and if it does go off, half of those are hangfires.... tried 3 different brand of caps, and same problems...  checked everything on the weapon, even changed the nipple... no help... it's not the gun or the operator... its the lower quality of supplies they put on the shelves now days...

went shooting the new cva accura v2 today had all of this happen first shot great 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 primers nothing cleaned breech in between all primers nope.the flash hole is tiny way to small i used a needle to clean it out between shots.can anyone tell me how big the flash hole is on there inline?

[predatorpro]

I have a traditions vortek and I love it! Best muzzy I've ever shot! Super simple and easy to clean and shoots great!

[Oh Mah]

the answer is .035 the accura is closer to .027.gonna drill it out and see if it makes it better

[syoungs]

I found that after use, my cva breech plug "broke" in. I don't know if it was just use, or the fact I clean the flash hole with a set of welding tip cleaners often, or what for sure, bit she goes bamg every time.
If your using loose powder, use the 209 style plug, let's the order sit right at the musket cap. Also, you really gotta reef the musket cap on sometimes, I found res 1081fl's to work best in my wolf, my optima v2 will shoot anything now. (Approx 300rndd down pipe)

I really recommend the gas welding tip cleaner over a nipple pick though, probably the biggest thing to make mine function reliably

[lazydrifter]

I really like that Knight Mountaineer UL.  I looked on their website last night but didn't see it listed with the western options. 

[Sabotloader]

Can't blame the sidelock for not going off. Its all user error of loading and not keeping the rifle protected during the hunt.

beg to differ.... hunted muzzy a lot back in the 70's..  CCI #11 caps, and never, never, never had a misfire or hangfire....  pulled it back into service last year to take my grandson out muzzy hunting, had to buy new caps and powder of course... now almost half my shots end up misfires, and if it does go off, half of those are hangfires.... tried 3 different brand of caps, and same problems...  checked everything on the weapon, even changed the nipple... no help... it's not the gun or the operator... its the lower quality of supplies they put on the shelves now days...

went shooting the new cva accura v2 today had all of this happen first shot great 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 primers nothing cleaned breech in between all primers nope.the flash hole is tiny way to small i used a needle to clean it out between shots.can anyone tell me how big the flash hole is on there inline?

On a Lehigh/Knight breech plug the flash hole is .031/2 and the flash channel is 5/32"...

[Sabotloader]

I really like that Knight Mountaineer UL.  I looked on their website last night but didn't see it listed with the western options.

Actually the best place to get one is at a local Sportsman's WHSE. If you call Knight at the 800 number ask for Garry McKelvy he can get you all the information you need... It would much more expensive from Knight because they can not undercut there retailers.

I know both Spokane and Kennewick have them in stock

http://www.sportsmanswarehouse.com/sportsmans/Knight-Ultra-Lite-.50Cal-Western-Muzzleloader-Tan-Stainless/productDetail/Muzzleloaders/prod99999026781/cat100008

[Oh Mah]

I found that after use, my cva breech plug "broke" in. I don't know if it was just use, or the fact I clean the flash hole with a set of welding tip cleaners often, or what for sure, bit she goes bamg every time.
If your using loose powder, use the 209 style plug, let's the order sit right at the musket cap. Also, you really gotta reef the musket cap on sometimes, I found res 1081fl's to work best in my wolf, my optima v2 will shoot anything now. (Approx 300rndd down pipe)

I really recommend the gas welding tip cleaner over a nipple pick though, probably the biggest thing to make mine function reliably

I Just came back from shooting and i did the welder tip cleaner bit,you are right the hole looks way better to me i did not drill it out but what a difference the tip cleaner made.i guess the caps i was using was the biggest problem loading the flash hole up. thanks for this tip 

[Sabotloader]

Just out of curiosity which caps were you using?

[Oh Mah]

i cant tell. they are in a red top black plastic ...made in germany...maybe a symbol with an RWS

[Sabotloader]

i cant tell. they are in a red top black plastic ...made in germany...maybe a symbol with an RWS

Yep RWS 1081's... they are probably the best (hottest) Musket cap available...

[Twang]

Traditions Stikefire may have problems lighting the cap and customer service has messed with my buddy for months.  If you go with Traditions and like a hammer the Vortex handles nice and patterns very well
I tried a CVA and ended up replacing every crappy screw for good ones after threads spun on trigger and sight None of the metal was good.  Like it was meant for interior use only, i have to keep it greased up and still I wonder how long it will shoot.  Broke the front sling lug (plastic) right away
I hunt with a knight Bighorn.  Added a thumbhole stock and peep, adjusted the stock trigger to my liking and can only think of one thing I would prefer
Knight fixed that with the ultralight
PS it cleans up like new.  Good steal

[Twang]

Traditions Stikefire may have problems lighting the cap and customer service has messed with my buddy for months.  If you go with Traditions and like a hammer the Vortex handles nice and patterns very well
I tried a CVA and ended up replacing every crappy screw for good ones after threads spun on trigger and sight None of the metal was good.  Like it was meant for interior use only, i have to keep it greased up and still I wonder how long it will shoot.  Broke the front sling lug (plastic) right away
I hunt with a knight Bighorn.  Added a thumbhole stock and peep, adjusted the stock trigger to my liking and can only think of one thing I would prefer
Knight fixed that with the ultralight
PS it cleans up like new.  Good steal

[mackdaddy]

Because of my lack of time to sit down and do the research I am wondering which of all the above mentioned manufactures muzzleloaders are made in America and have lifetime warranties? My old Thompson Center Hawken .50 cal after 20 years of occasional muzzleloader hunting developed a crack in the walnut stock. I contacted T/C and they sent me a new stock, just as nice as the original.

[mackdaddy]

I have looked at a couple of muzzleloaders and they happen to be equipped for Musket Caps. I have always used #11 percussion. Musket caps are legal in OR and WA ? 209 are not?