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Re: What would you do when an outfitter completely doesn't follow his word??
« Reply #90 on: October 11, 2016, 08:03:19 PM »
Man a lot of people are quick to jump to opinions without the whole story.  :dunno:  could be all a mis understanding and some people are willing to ruin a mans lively hood. I will wait before I pass judgment.
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Re: What would you do when an outfitter completely doesn't follow his word??
« Reply #91 on: October 11, 2016, 08:03:29 PM »
I see nothing wrong with naming the outfitter. It's likely that he normally does a great job. We've seen good reports on this forum about this outfitter. I notice some of the good reviews are with someone who has drawn a special permit hunt. A special permit hunt is much different than a general season hunt as there would be much less competition from other hunters, so I could see why those hunters might end up having a much better experience than the general season hunters. It would make sense that during the general season it could be easy for the outfitter to overbook, as someone already mentioned. Personally I was hoping to use White Pass Outfitters for a drop camp and I'm glad to read reports about people's experiences.

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Re: What would you do when an outfitter completely doesn't follow his word??
« Reply #92 on: October 11, 2016, 08:08:03 PM »
I see nothing wrong with naming the outfitter. It's likely that he normally does a great job. We've seen good reports on this forum about this outfitter. I notice some of the good reviews are with someone who has drawn a special permit hunt. A special permit hunt is much different than a general season hunt as there would be much less competition from other hunters, so I could see why those hunters might end up having a much better experience than the general season hunters. It would make sense that during the general season it could be easy for the outfitter to overbook, as someone already mentioned. Personally I was hoping to use White Pass Outfitters for a drop camp and I'm glad to read reports about people's experiences.

I really think we need to hear WPO's side of the story.
I know nothing of him, other than what I've read here.
Not throwing jabs at the OP, however I feel that WPO has a right to either defend himself or correct an error.
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Re: What would you do when an outfitter completely doesn't follow his word??
« Reply #93 on: October 11, 2016, 08:13:14 PM »
I ran into these guys (not the boss) Hiking up to Fifes Ridge on Sept 24, they were going in to get an elk out and proceeded to tell us about 3 or 4 others they where also hauling out. Seemed like nice guys, gave us their card, I would have called them possibly to pack out if I was ever deep in. Questioning it now.
If you were on Fifes Ridge, it is not the same outfitter as the one the OP is talking about. We used CPO this year with zero issues.  :twocents:

So i wonder what outfitter is on the card they gave him then?

WPO and CPO are different
I know. I'm saying if Jek was on Fifes, from my understanding it should have been CPO (which isn't who this thread is about), unless the guy who was illegally packing people in before, and had to get life-flighted out last year is back at it.
If it was WPO, that would be grounds to having their special use permit pulled by the usfs.

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Re: What would you do when an outfitter completely doesn't follow his word??
« Reply #94 on: October 11, 2016, 08:16:19 PM »
I really think we need to hear WPO's side of the story.
I know nothing of him, other than what I've read here.
Not throwing jabs at the OP, however I feel that WPO has a right to either defend himself or correct an error.

I agree, and I expect we will get his side of the story as soon as he has time to do so.

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Re: What would you do when an outfitter completely doesn't follow his word??
« Reply #95 on: October 11, 2016, 08:18:11 PM »
I sorry for your experience.  I would be pretty disappointed like you have shown.  I do think you are due a new trip or some money back. 
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Re: What would you do when an outfitter completely doesn't follow his word??
« Reply #96 on: October 11, 2016, 08:22:51 PM »
Well he sent me a text this evening said we would talk in morning again I want to say this is not to crucify  him I just want a resolution sometimes business deals.hit speed bumps... I can say as I have stated the camp.itself tent everything was brand new and clean  and that itself was nice .  I hope we can reach a  amicable  solution for both of us thanks for your input guys

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Re: What would you do when an outfitter completely doesn't follow his word??
« Reply #97 on: October 11, 2016, 08:23:13 PM »
Here's my two cents, natches sportsman obviously doesn't like these guys the way he's talking and everyone else should keep there yaps shut until the head of WPO speaks up.

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Re: What would you do when an outfitter completely doesn't follow his word??
« Reply #98 on: October 11, 2016, 08:32:38 PM »
I ran into these guys (not the boss) Hiking up to Fifes Ridge on Sept 24, they were going in to get an elk out and proceeded to tell us about 3 or 4 others they where also hauling out. Seemed like nice guys, gave us their card, I would have called them possibly to pack out if I was ever deep in. Questioning it now.
If you were on Fifes Ridge, it is not the same outfitter as the one the OP is talking about. We used CPO this year with zero issues.  :twocents:

So i wonder what outfitter is on the card they gave him then?
That is a very good question that I would love to hear the answer to.

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Re: What would you do when an outfitter completely doesn't follow his word??
« Reply #99 on: October 11, 2016, 08:44:05 PM »
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Re: What would you do when an outfitter completely doesn't follow his word??
« Reply #100 on: October 11, 2016, 08:47:17 PM »
In archery we have something like the way of the superior man. When the archer misses the center of the target, he turns round and seeks for the cause of his failure in himself. 

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Re: What would you do when an outfitter completely doesn't follow his word??
« Reply #101 on: October 11, 2016, 08:48:56 PM »
I ran into these guys (not the boss) Hiking up to Fifes Ridge on Sept 24, they were going in to get an elk out and proceeded to tell us about 3 or 4 others they where also hauling out. Seemed like nice guys, gave us their card, I would have called them possibly to pack out if I was ever deep in. Questioning it now.
If you were on Fifes Ridge, it is not the same outfitter as the one the OP is talking about. We used CPO this year with zero issues.  :twocents:

So i wonder what outfitter is on the card they gave him then?
That is a very good question that I would love to hear the answer to.
Could it be possible that it was WPO and they were just packing out elk for hunters ( not clients ) ? Is there a rule that they can only pack out animals in the GMU they guide in ?
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Re: What would you do when an outfitter completely doesn't follow his word??
« Reply #103 on: October 11, 2016, 09:04:44 PM »
I hiked that trail to near where the camp was. Not very far at all. Very doable with your own gear. Is it a good hunting area? there are elk there but It would be hard to swallow 3k for a wall tent that close to the hwy. Im guessing 2miles in ish 3 max.
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Re: What would you do when an outfitter completely doesn't follow his word??
« Reply #104 on: October 11, 2016, 09:17:51 PM »
I'll offer $2500 walk camps....

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