What would you do when an outfitter completely doesn't follow his word??UPDATE

[JDHasty]

I hiked that trail to near where the camp was. Not very far at all. Very doable with your own gear. Is it a good hunting area? there are elk there but It would be hard to swallow 3k for a wall tent that close to the hwy. Im guessing 2miles in ish 3 max.

They could have spent a week in the Mark Hopkins for $3k

It is unimaginable to me that any group would consent to pay $3k for a couple hour long pony rides and a week in a wall tent two miles off the highway unless that was part of the shtick at a high fence operation.

 

[fishngamereaper]

I'll offer $2500 walk camps....

Book em while I still have spots available




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I do them for $2000. But max distance is 3/4 mile from a main hwy. You must go a mile or two.

[Gringo31]

Lol


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[millerwheeler]

I hiked that trail to near where the camp was. Not very far at all. Very doable with your own gear. Is it a good hunting area? there are elk there but It would be hard to swallow 3k for a wall tent that close to the hwy. Im guessing 2miles in ish 3 max.

They could have spent a week in the Mark Hopkins for $3k

It is unimaginable to me that any group would consent to pay $3k for a couple hour long pony rides and a week in a wall tent two miles off the highway unless that was part of the shtick at a high fence operation.

That's the problem wasn't what we were promised . And hey think of the burn u feel when you own all the equipment just wanted something different  ad special

[Karl Blanchard]

Well he sent me a text this evening said we would talk in morning again I want to say this is not to crucify  him I just want a resolution sometimes business deals.hit speed bumps... I can say as I have stated the camp.itself tent everything was brand new and clean  and that itself was nice .  I hope we can reach a  amicable  solution for both of us thanks for your input guys

This right here is exactly why you were right to post this on here.  Could not get a response via any avenue, but it goes on the internet and bam!  Hope everything turns out well and both parties are satisfied

Oh and I do hike camps for $1,500



 

[docsven]

Not elk hunting, but I booked a hunt last year with an outfitter who I have seen mentioned on this site. 4 days before we were supposed to go he called and cancelled because his employee broke his foot. It was a decent reason. He didn't refund money, kept putting it off and I finally reversed the charge. This year, he cancelled a week before on the booked date, and wanted me to reschedule. I said no thanks! Lesson learned.
I won't mention the name; sometimes things don't go as planned.

[jmscon]

$500 and I'll show you where to go! You have to bring the map though.

[Whitpirate]

tagging....

  OP

[finnman]

I have read most of this and I have to say I am still in awe that guys actually pay for guid d hints in Washington? We hunted this unit by foot with bull tags and shot a 5x5 and a 6x6 just hiking into the wilderness boundary on foot. We set up our own wall tents and cooked our own food and used my friends horses to ride the meat out!
One thing, I am a hand shake type guy, but now days a written contract is a business must. It's simple protection. It's smart business practice and should not offend anyone.
Still waiting to hear from the outfitter......
The hunter did right, no response deserves a harder approach. Where are you WPO???

[TwoFeet]

tagged

[KFhunter]

There's lots of other review sites out there besides HW, I'd be on all of them researching and giving my impressions after the hunt.

[mkcj]

I was at the show and I can assure you that 6-8 hour trip was not
Said . That trip can be from 2-4 hours depending on where your tent is  out of all the hunters your the only one complaining Specially on social media . All the other hunters had a great time. If your crying about your camp not being in the middle of an elk herd and is scared to walk a few miles a day to hunt than wilderness hunts aren't for you . Sorry there's no roads up there for you to sit in your truck and drive around looking for animals . Try goin 3  days with no
 Sleep setting up camps and packing people in .

If you are a representative of WPO, you just dId more harm to their reputation than the OP.

 

 

[Taco280AI]

I'm just curious here. To those saying give WPO a chance to respond before posting a bad experience online, what exactly is that? How many unanswered calls and texts must the OP wait? How long should they wait while not getting the courtesy of a returned call? And why shouldn't they post a negative experience? Are only good reviews the only ones allowed?


Money794. So many people have said the same thing and you're not listening. You are doing WPO harm. You're arguing the customer and not the circumstance. You're personally attacking the customer and not arguing the event. You say "nope" that you're not doing harm, but potential customers are telling you that you are and you're telling us we're wrong.

I wouldn't avoid WPO based on one bad review. Even if there are negative reviews I'm going to read the good and bad and make up my own mind. What I will avoid a company for is an employee doing exactly what you're doing. Trash talking customers. Arguing with the customer on a personal level and not addressing the issue. Then arguing other potential customers and telling us we're wrong. You are hurting WPO. Believe us or don't, damage is being done.

[Pinetar]

I'm just curious here. To those saying give WPO a chance to respond before posting a bad experience online, what exactly is that? How many unanswered calls and texts must the OP wait? How long should they wait while not getting the courtesy of a returned call? And why shouldn't they post a negative experience? Are only good reviews the only ones allowed?


Money794. So many people have said the same thing and you're not listening. You are doing WPO harm. You're arguing the customer and not the circumstance. You're personally attacking the customer and not arguing the event. You say "nope" that you're not doing harm, but potential customers are telling you that you are and you're telling us we're wrong.

I wouldn't avoid WPO based on one bad review. Even if there are negative reviews I'm going to read the good and bad and make up my own mind. What I will avoid a company for is an employee doing exactly what you're doing. Trash talking customers. Arguing with the customer on a personal level and not addressing the issue. Then arguing other potential customers and telling us we're wrong. You are hurting WPO. Believe us or don't, damage is being done.

  Said very well. OP has the right to give everyone his review, he's done nothing wrong. From what I've seen on this site I'm sure WPO will give us his side when he gets the chance, its only been a couple days.

Money794. If you are just an employee of WPO, stay out of it and do your job. The customer (guest) is always right even if he is wrong in your eyes. Word of mouth and repeat business is #1 and you are not doing WPO in favors by coming on here and making comments like you have. That is the job of your boss not you.

OP - Waiting all year for your trip and then this, SORRY to hear.

[HntnFsh]

 I am totally amazed that the O.P. is handling this situation in the way that he has. if it happened as he said. And right now that's all I have to go on. But it is hard for me to believe that there isn't some substance to his story. Especially after some of it was seemingly confirmed by an acquaintance of WPO. Just going on what I have read his crew got the shaft in such a bad way there is no excuse or action that I could think of that can make it right. They can never get back a lost elk hunt! How would they ever go into another hunt with the same excitement and anticipation as they had for this one? To me the outfitter should have called them immediately to explain his situation and make things right. And now, days later he gets a text that says they will talk in the morning. Sorry, but a phone call to say. Hey, "I'm really sorry about how things transpired. Things have happened that are out of my control. I am extremely busy right now. I will call you in the morning and see if we can get things squared away." I just cant think of any way to repair the damage that has been done. May be able to alleviate some pain. But that's about it. How does something so good, go so bad!

This thread really disappoints me because I have enjoyed reading WPOs posts. Stories from others about their trips with him etc. I have even talked to my crew about using this outfitter sometime in the future.

I hope the outfitter comes on here with his side of the story. I hope he is able to shed some light on the situation that will make everybody feel better about this disaster of a trip. If it happened as stated. And if even parts of it are true. I hope hes learned a big lesson about how to treat customers fairly and living up to your word.

I'm trying really hard to with hold judgement. But its pretty difficult right now. Hopefully I see something soon that will make more sense of this and change my mind.