What would you do when an outfitter completely doesn't follow his word??UPDATE

[Karl Blanchard]

Like has been said before, there are always two sides to a story, but I've heard stuff like this time and time again.  Not about WPO specifically but just drop camps in general.  Glad you saved texts, voicemails, and emails.  You can't dance around evidence.  If what you say is true, then that is absolutely unacceptable treatment, especially for 3k!  I hope they chime in soon and I'm sure they have already been made aware of this thread.  Hope a reasonable compromise can be made for both parties sake

[millerwheeler]

Like has been said before, there are always two sides to a story, but I've heard stuff like this time and time again.  Not about WPO specifically but just drop camps in general.  Glad you saved texts, voicemails, and emails.  You can't dance around evidence.  If what you say is true, then that is absolutely unacceptable treatment, especially for 3k!  I hope they chime in soon and I'm sure they have already been made aware of this thread.  Hope a reasonable compromise can be made for both parties sake

A reasonable compromise is all I want the tent ,cots, and kitchen provided were brand new and not junk was a nice set up I won't complain about that it's the other stuff that's got me upset

[elkslare]

Elkslare, who was your outfitter?

This will come out in time. This is not my thread nor is it time for it.  Thanks for asking   

[Karl Blanchard]

Like has been said before, there are always two sides to a story, but I've heard stuff like this time and time again.  Not about WPO specifically but just drop camps in general.  Glad you saved texts, voicemails, and emails.  You can't dance around evidence.  If what you say is true, then that is absolutely unacceptable treatment, especially for 3k!  I hope they chime in soon and I'm sure they have already been made aware of this thread.  Hope a reasonable compromise can be made for both parties sake

A reasonable compromise is all I want the tent ,cots, and kitchen provided were brand new and not junk was a nice set up I won't complain about that it's the other stuff that's got me upset

That may be but if camp wasn't where you wanted it then its pretty pointless.  You can go camping anytime and sleep good.  For a lot less than 3 grand

[coachcw]

wow drop camps are just that but a one hour ride into the the wrong unit really ? you had set up specific times to go in and come out those times where not honored . sorry for your experience . I had a similar one in the eagle caps a few years ago ( ottis waganer ) and I will say he was a complete dushe bag . at the time it was moss spring outfitters then it was sold . he was at one time the president of the Oregon guides association so I expected a strait shooter. I hope it all works out but without it in  writing a contract you may be screwed . Elk you didn't even have a drop camp , you weren't dropped . you had a walk camp , that just sucks . 

[fishngamereaper]

I highly doubt wpo will respond to this thread. Its between him and the op. I wouldn't air dirty laundry if it was me. I know quite a few guys that have used wpo to pack out game and they have been satisfied. But like every thing in this world someone is going to have a bad experience from time to time.

[Antlershed]

I ran into these guys (not the boss) Hiking up to Fifes Ridge on Sept 24, they were going in to get an elk out and proceeded to tell us about 3 or 4 others they where also hauling out. Seemed like nice guys, gave us their card, I would have called them possibly to pack out if I was ever deep in. Questioning it now.

If you were on Fifes Ridge, it is not the same outfitter as the one the OP is talking about. We used CPO this year with zero issues. 

[PlateauNDN]

I ran into these guys (not the boss) Hiking up to Fifes Ridge on Sept 24, they were going in to get an elk out and proceeded to tell us about 3 or 4 others they where also hauling out. Seemed like nice guys, gave us their card, I would have called them possibly to pack out if I was ever deep in. Questioning it now.

If you were on Fifes Ridge, it is not the same outfitter as the one the OP is talking about. We used CPO this year with zero issues. 

So i wonder what outfitter is on the card they gave him then?

[DJR]

Sorry to hear how things went wrong for the OP but before we start lighting torches and rounding up pitch forks I would like to say a few words about my muzzle loader hunt with the same outfitter. We were on the east side of the crest but not by much. I had an any bull tag in Bumping. Weather was pretty wet but we were comfortable in a new or nearly new wall tent. Gas stove was new. Lantern was new. Utensils were new. Gas heater was new or nearly so. Wood stove was new. Trip in was ~3.5 hours. There was a small glitch with the jump off time but nothing we couldn't roll with.

The packers, R*** and S**** were in the saddle somewhere just about every daylight hour and nothing suffered from lack of effort. They worked incredibly hard for our party as did Kent.

Dollar for value it was worth every penny (in my case) and I would book with White Pass Outfitters again without hesitation.

I know this is not the same set of circumstances that the OP ran into but in fairness to the outfitter I wanted to report on my experience.

DJR

[sagerat]

I have a feeling that money794 is lying about being affiliated with WPO. He probably was instructed on what to say and then shut up.

[h20hunter]

Always been impressed with WPO and his presence here. PURE SPECULATION here, but an example of what could have happened. Maybe a packer or employee made a call that they shouldn't have? Like I said, only speculation about what could have happened. I'll wait for WPO to post if he decides to.

[Taco280AI]

I got the impression that his "nope" meant he doesn't think he didn't did more harm than good with his rant and personal attack of the OP, but that's just me. Maybe he's saying he's not affiliated with the outfitter? But if that's the case why would he have been there at the booth during the discussion? And why would he be missing out on 3 days of sleep while packing in camps and people?

[horsehunter509]

I ran into these guys (not the boss) Hiking up to Fifes Ridge on Sept 24, they were going in to get an elk out and proceeded to tell us about 3 or 4 others they where also hauling out. Seemed like nice guys, gave us their card, I would have called them possibly to pack out if I was ever deep in. Questioning it now.

If you were on Fifes Ridge, it is not the same outfitter as the one the OP is talking about. We used CPO this year with zero issues. 

So i wonder what outfitter is on the card they gave him then?

WPO and CPO are different

[Elk hunter4ever]

  I say to packer which way are the elk he tells.me to stay on the Rimrock side and follow this flat it's guaranteed I'm like I have a West tag can't hunt that side of road he says nobody will check?? Like come on wtf

Am I the only one seeing this? I'm sorry for your horrible experience, but if one of you guys harvested a branched antler bull on the east side when its only open to spikes but with a Westside tag and got caught by the game warden. It would have been very bad for you guys! Very unprofessional on the packer. I wonder how much illegal stuff goes on with wpo. 

[Antlershed]

I ran into these guys (not the boss) Hiking up to Fifes Ridge on Sept 24, they were going in to get an elk out and proceeded to tell us about 3 or 4 others they where also hauling out. Seemed like nice guys, gave us their card, I would have called them possibly to pack out if I was ever deep in. Questioning it now.

If you were on Fifes Ridge, it is not the same outfitter as the one the OP is talking about. We used CPO this year with zero issues. 

So i wonder what outfitter is on the card they gave him then?

WPO and CPO are different

I know. I'm saying if Jek was on Fifes, from my understanding it should have been CPO (which isn't who this thread is about), unless the guy who was illegally packing people in before, and had to get life-flighted out last year is back at it.