What a waste

[BackStrappin]

Came across this pulling out of rock candy today. Possible it was road kill but I doubt it was.  Hope you enjoy the 20 pounds of meat you turd 

[Jason]

 

[cbond3318]

That is pretty herendous even if it was road kill. Not even close to what the new law supports!!

[Stein]

I would report it, even if it is roadkill it is not legal to leave that behind.

[BackStrappin]

I would report it, even if it is roadkill it is not legal to leave that behind.

 

I did do a report , hopefully I'll get a response

[deerhunter_98520]

 

[GrampasGuns]

That's such a crying shame

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[JakeLand]

Could you see if it was shot ? Either way that is complete BS

[andr3wxmma]

I hope karma finds whoever did this.

[runamuk]

So if it was a roadkill would it be better to leave it all to rot?  So only taking some is just not good enough? It's all or nothing?  You just can't make everyone happy.

[92xj]

It's the law. Take it all, including guts.

[Jonathan_S]

I hope karma finds whoever did this.

And does what?

There is some serious conclusion jumping here. Obviously, if it were shot, it's an illegal move. If it's roadkill, who cares? They took everything but the fronts which will certainly not be wasted.

I took an entire roadkill deer home and ended up trashing half the thing anyway based on the damage.

[Jonathan_S]

It's the law. Take it all, including guts.

Nope

[andr3wxmma]

It's the law. Take it all, including guts.

It is permissible to salvage and transport a deer or elk that is accidentally killed by a motor vehicle collision except for any deer killed by a motor vehicle collision in Clark, Cowlitz, and Wahkiakum counties.
A salvage permit must be obtained from the department within 24 hours of taking possession of the animal. Permits may be obtained on the department's website or at department regional offices.
Big game licenses and tags cannot be used for the purpose of salvaging motor vehicle-killed deer or elk.
The entire carcass, including entrails, of the animal must be removed from the road right of way.
Any meat an individual deems unfit for human consumption or unusable animal parts must be disposed of pursuant to WAC 246-203-121 http://apps.leg.wa.gov/WAC/default.aspx?cite=246-203-121. Individuals salvaging and consuming this meat do so at their own risk. The department makes no guarantee as to the fitness for consumption of deer or elk collected under a salvage permit. (See Wild Game Meat Food Safety.)
An individual may not kill an injured or wounded animal for the purpose of salvage. Only a law enforcement officer or individuals or entities authorized by the department may euthanize an animal injured in a motor vehicle collision, whether or not the animal is taken for salvage.
Possession of wildlife in violation of subsection (4) is punishable under RCW 77.15.750.

[Ridgeratt]

Does it seem strange that the head, Back strap's and hinds are all that's gone.

[runamuk]

It's the law. Take it all, including guts.

So leave it to rot is the better option if you see someone hit a deer and drive off?  Don't bother salvaging any of it? 


Some of you all ain't never been hungry I hope you know how blessed you are.  And here I felt bad killing woodrats and leaving them for the critters.  If shtf I would eat them and roadkill cutlets.

[Harbor_hunter]

Disgusting

[andr3wxmma]

It's the law. Take it all, including guts.

So leave it to rot is the better option if you see someone hit a deer and drive off?  Don't bother salvaging any of it? 


Some of you all ain't never been hungry I hope you know how blessed you are.  And here I felt bad killing woodrats and leaving them for the critters.  If shtf I would eat them and roadkill cutlets.

If they were hungry why take the head and leave meat behind? I don't think anyone has a problem with someone using the meat from roadkill but at least take it all.

[Jonathan_S]

I imagine if somebody took this picture BEFORE the roadkill law, you guys would be saying, "at least it's not all going to waste"

[bigsads]

Seems like someone high graded it and bolted

[Gunsmoke]

Does it seem strange that the head, Back strap's and hinds are all that's gone.

Not strange at all, those are the best cuts.

[NOCK NOCK]

Waste ?  Depends on the circumstances. If it was RK, nothing in the law says you have to use all the meat. You just have to remove it all from the roadway.
Nothing goes to waste in the wild, its all consumed by critters.
Maybe this guy picks up ALOT of RK, it can be extra work sorting through the damaged area, just taking the best and leaving the rest to feed nature.

It may have been a gun and run, but without any visible gunshot wound  but if it was,   he's a turd.

[92xj]

It's the law. Take it all, including guts.

It is permissible to salvage and transport a deer or elk that is accidentally killed by a motor vehicle collision except for any deer killed by a motor vehicle collision in Clark, Cowlitz, and Wahkiakum counties.
A salvage permit must be obtained from the department within 24 hours of taking possession of the animal. Permits may be obtained on the department's website or at department regional offices.
Big game licenses and tags cannot be used for the purpose of salvaging motor vehicle-killed deer or elk.
The entire carcass, including entrails, of the animal must be removed from the road right of way.
Any meat an individual deems unfit for human consumption or unusable animal parts must be disposed of pursuant to WAC 246-203-121 http://apps.leg.wa.gov/WAC/default.aspx?cite=246-203-121. Individuals salvaging and consuming this meat do so at their own risk. The department makes no guarantee as to the fitness for consumption of deer or elk collected under a salvage permit. (See Wild Game Meat Food Safety.)
An individual may not kill an injured or wounded animal for the purpose of salvage. Only a law enforcement officer or individuals or entities authorized by the department may euthanize an animal injured in a motor vehicle collision, whether or not the animal is taken for salvage.
Possession of wildlife in violation of subsection (4) is punishable under RCW 77.15.750.

Hey, look at that.  I might break history here on Huntwa. I was wrong and I apologize.
I remember when this first was legal and reading up on it a not but don't remember it saying "removed from the right of way". My memory was the entire animal carcass and entrails must be removed from the site.  Maybe I was reading a draft and not the final release, beats me.  But thanks for posting the wording. 

[92xj]

It's the law. Take it all, including guts.

So leave it to rot is the better option if you see someone hit a deer and drive off?  Don't bother salvaging any of it? 


Some of you all ain't never been hungry I hope you know how blessed you are.  And here I felt bad killing woodrats and leaving them for the critters.  If shtf I would eat them and roadkill cutlets.

And then there is this stupid post.
Before you make assumptions about "some of you" and acting like you know their lives, stop and think for a second.  Maybe people don't bitch and moan on the internet about how crappy their life is or how hungry they are and don't brag about how blessed they are.  They are humble and don't feel sorry for themselves. You know nothing of other people.

[Boss .300 winmag]

It's the law. Take it all, including guts.

It is permissible to salvage and transport a deer or elk that is accidentally killed by a motor vehicle collision except for any deer killed by a motor vehicle collision in Clark, Cowlitz, and Wahkiakum counties.
A salvage permit must be obtained from the department within 24 hours of taking possession of the animal. Permits may be obtained on the department's website or at department regional offices.
Big game licenses and tags cannot be used for the purpose of salvaging motor vehicle-killed deer or elk.
The entire carcass, including entrails, of the animal must be removed from the road right of way.
Any meat an individual deems unfit for human consumption or unusable animal parts must be disposed of pursuant to WAC 246-203-121 http://apps.leg.wa.gov/WAC/default.aspx?cite=246-203-121. Individuals salvaging and consuming this meat do so at their own risk. The department makes no guarantee as to the fitness for consumption of deer or elk collected under a salvage permit. (See Wild Game Meat Food Safety.)
An individual may not kill an injured or wounded animal for the purpose of salvage. Only a law enforcement officer or individuals or entities authorized by the department may euthanize an animal injured in a motor vehicle collision, whether or not the animal is taken for salvage.
Possession of wildlife in violation of subsection (4) is punishable under RCW 77.15.750.

Hey, look at that.  I might break history here on Huntwa. I was wrong and I apologize.
I remember when this first was legal and reading up on it a not but don't remember it saying "removed from the right of way". My memory was the entire animal carcass and entrails must be removed from the site.  Maybe I was reading a draft and not the final release, beats me.  But thanks for posting the wording. 

If you read the WAC about disposal I still think you have to take the whole animal and dispose of it. 

Bigtex might be able to chime in on it and set us straight. 

[92xj]

It's the law. Take it all, including guts.

It is permissible to salvage and transport a deer or elk that is accidentally killed by a motor vehicle collision except for any deer killed by a motor vehicle collision in Clark, Cowlitz, and Wahkiakum counties.
A salvage permit must be obtained from the department within 24 hours of taking possession of the animal. Permits may be obtained on the department's website or at department regional offices.
Big game licenses and tags cannot be used for the purpose of salvaging motor vehicle-killed deer or elk.
The entire carcass, including entrails, of the animal must be removed from the road right of way.
Any meat an individual deems unfit for human consumption or unusable animal parts must be disposed of pursuant to WAC 246-203-121 http://apps.leg.wa.gov/WAC/default.aspx?cite=246-203-121. Individuals salvaging and consuming this meat do so at their own risk. The department makes no guarantee as to the fitness for consumption of deer or elk collected under a salvage permit. (See Wild Game Meat Food Safety.)
An individual may not kill an injured or wounded animal for the purpose of salvage. Only a law enforcement officer or individuals or entities authorized by the department may euthanize an animal injured in a motor vehicle collision, whether or not the animal is taken for salvage.
Possession of wildlife in violation of subsection (4) is punishable under RCW 77.15.750.

Hey, look at that.  I might break history here on Huntwa. I was wrong and I apologize.
I remember when this first was legal and reading up on it a not but don't remember it saying "removed from the right of way". My memory was the entire animal carcass and entrails must be removed from the site.  Maybe I was reading a draft and not the final release, beats me.  But thanks for posting the wording. 

If you read the WAC about disposal I still think you have to take the whole animal and dispose of it. 

Bigtex might be able to chime in on it and set us straight. 

Maybe that's what I thinking. I have no idea now.
I just dont see you being able to gut, skin, quarter and bone out road kill leaving everything on the side of the road like normally us hunters do to game killed in the woods. Though it would be nice to be able to leave that stuff and not bring it home.

[NOCK NOCK]

You need to take ALL of the deer when picking it up, after that, proper disposal of what you do not keep.
My 1st one I took to the mountains, gutted there - took home to process - then returned remains to mountains.
2nd one I took home - gutless method - returning remains to mountains

[Jonathan_S]

You need to take ALL of the deer when picking it up, after that, proper disposal of what you do not keep.
My 1st one I took to the mountains, gutted there - took home to process - then returned remains to mountains.
2nd one I took home - gutless method - returning remains to mountains

The WAC just says that it must be removed from the right of way

[NOCK NOCK]

You need to take ALL of the deer when picking it up, after that, proper disposal of what you do not keep.
My 1st one I took to the mountains, gutted there - took home to process - then returned remains to mountains.
2nd one I took home - gutless method - returning remains to mountains

The WAC just says that it must be removed from the right of way

Yes........ BUT, please folks don't be gutting an animal near a road, that is a good way to get folks PO'd and then we will lose this privilege. 

[fish vacuum]

You need to take ALL of the deer when picking it up, after that, proper disposal of what you do not keep.
My 1st one I took to the mountains, gutted there - took home to process - then returned remains to mountains.
2nd one I took home - gutless method - returning remains to mountains

It only says, "The entire carcass, including entrails, of the animal must be removed from the road right of way."

[PlateauNDN]

You need to take ALL of the deer when picking it up, after that, proper disposal of what you do not keep.
My 1st one I took to the mountains, gutted there - took home to process - then returned remains to mountains.
2nd one I took home - gutless method - returning remains to mountains

The WAC just says that it must be removed from the right of way

Yes........ BUT, please folks don't be gutting an animal near a road, that is a good way to get folks PO'd and then we will lose this privilege. 

People are already doing it. I took this pic right next to the road just outside of the roads "right-of-way".

[JDhunting_Aus]

I think there's law and theres common sense. Regardless of the laws I'd rather see someone take a bit of meat than leave the whole thing to rot. If it's hit by a car its not like the bloke is poaching deer or anything just grabbing some handy meat to take home.

I'm sure most people here have driven over the speed limit in their time and justify it by being late for something or going "only a little bit over" , that's against the law so how's it any different?

I abide by laws but they've got to stand up against common sense. Would I huff and  puff against someone doing this even if its against the law? Not a chance, if I saw the same bloke illegally shoot it and do the same thing its a  whole other ball game to me.

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[PlateauNDN]

That was 1 of 3 I passed between north of Ellensburg (about 10 miles) and Yakima in 1 day. 2 gutless method and 1 gutted. All just outside the "right-of-way". Legal, but could've dragged or shoved them the extra few feet out of sight.

[Boss .300 winmag]

The disposal WAC.


Print WACs > Title 246 > Chapter 246-203 > Section 246-203-121

246-203-100  <<  246-203-121 >>   246-203-130

Agency filings affecting this section
WAC 246-203-121

Disposal of dead animals.

(1) Definitions. For the purpose of this regulation the following definitions apply:
(a) "Burial" means completely covering with soil in a manner and location not requiring a permit for a landfill under chapter 70.95 RCW, Solid waste management—Reduction and recycling.
(b) "Composting" means a process of controlled aerobic decomposition in compliance with chapter 70.95 RCW, Solid waste management—Reduction and recycling.
(c) "Dead animal" means the carcass or tissue from an animal, large or small, except part of an animal used for food or other beneficial purpose in accordance with federal, state, and local laws and regulations. "Dead animal" does not mean a fish or other primarily aquatic animal.
(d) "Incineration" means controlled and monitored combustion for the purposes of volume reduction and pathogen destruction in an enclosed device approved by the department of ecology or the local air pollution control authority under chapter 70.94 RCW, Washington Clean Air Act, and chapter 70.95 RCW, Solid waste management—Reduction and recycling.
(e) "Landfilling" means a process of disposal at a permitted facility where solid waste is permanently placed in or on land in compliance with rules adopted by the department of ecology under chapter 70.95 RCW, Solid waste management—Reduction and recycling.
(f) "Livestock" means horses, mules, donkeys, cattle, bison, sheep, goats, swine, rabbits, llamas, alpacas, ratites, poultry, waterfowl, game birds, or other species according to RCW 16.36.005.
(g) "Natural decomposition" means natural decay on the surface of the ground without cover material.
(h) "Rendering" means heat processing according to requirements under chapter 16.68 RCW, Disposal of dead animals.
(2) Disposal methods.
(a) Within seventy-two hours after death or discovery, the owner of a dead animal or, if the owner of the animal cannot be identified, the owner of the property on which the animal is found must properly dispose of the dead animal. A dead animal must be covered or otherwise removed from public view immediately upon discovery by the person responsible for disposing of the dead animal.
(b) The person responsible for disposal of a dead animal must dispose of it in a manner so as not to become a public or common nuisance or cause pollution of surface or groundwater.
(c) The person responsible for disposal of a dead animal must dispose of it by burial, landfilling, incineration, composting, rendering, or another method approved by the local health officer (such as natural decomposition) that is not otherwise prohibited by federal, state, or local law or regulation.
(d) A person disposing of a dead animal by burial must place it so that every part is covered by at least three feet of soil; at a location not less than one hundred feet from any well, spring, stream or other surface waters; not in a low-lying area subject to seasonal flooding or within a one hundred-year flood plain; and not in a manner likely to contaminate groundwater.
(e) A person disposing of a dead animal must not bury or compost it within the sanitary control area of a public drinking water supply source as designated under chapter 246-290 WAC, Public water supplies, or chapter 246-291 WAC, Group B public water systems.
(f) The local health officer may specify the method of disposal for a dead animal if:
(i) The animal died with a communicable disease transmissible to humans; or
(ii) The local health officer considers a public health emergency to exist.
(g) The provisions of RCW 16.36.092 and chapter 16-25 WAC supersede the provisions of this regulation for the disposal of a livestock animal that has died because of disease or unknown cause.
[Statutory Authority: RCW 43.20.050(2). WSR 07-14-149, § 246-203-121, filed 7/5/07, effective 8/5/07.]
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I don't see anywhere in here it says you can leave anything besides the road. 

[NOCK NOCK]

That was 1 of 3 I passed between north of Ellensburg (about 10 miles) and Yakima in 1 day. 2 gutless method and 1 gutted. All just outside the "right-of-way". Legal, but could've dragged or shoved them the extra few feet out of sight.

Exactly, and if that keeps up we may eventually lose this privilege. Picture a family with little ones driving down the road to get their Christmas tree.....look mommy whats that guy doing with that deer. 

[fish vacuum]

A dead animal on the side of the road is just as dead if someone takes the meat off it. Still, I'd try and leave the remaining parts in the brush.

[cbond3318]

That was 1 of 3 I passed between north of Ellensburg (about 10 miles) and Yakima in 1 day. 2 gutless method and 1 gutted. All just outside the "right-of-way". Legal, but could've dragged or shoved them the extra few feet out of sight.

Exactly, and if that keeps up we may eventually lose this privilege. Picture a family with little ones driving down the road to get their Christmas tree.....look mommy whats that guy doing with that deer. 

 

[bigtex]

The WAC as it was written has created issues specifically the "The entire carcass, including entrails, of the animal must be removed from the road right of way" portion.

It was WDFWs intent with this statement that individuals would have to take the entire animal home, plain and simple. However, some see it meaning they can take the meat and simply move the carcass out of the right of way. But if you think about it, you just now placed a rotting animal on someone else's property. I foresee the rule to be changed in the coming years. It's just coming up with good verbiage that will be the hard part.

[shootem]

 How do you explain a deer as road kill that has the best parts removed, no obvious major blunt trauma, and decent quality meat left behind. The remaining portions are bloodless and not deformed. Not even a broken leg. Nobody would take the hindquarters if the deer was hit there. Why take the head unless it was intact and worth taking. This is wrong all the way. Even if it was a legal kill leaving intact front quarters is illegal waste of game. I hope this was passed on to the will WDFW. BS all the way.

[fish vacuum]

The WAC as it was written has created issues specifically the "The entire carcass, including entrails, of the animal must be removed from the road right of way" portion.

It was WDFWs intent with this statement that individuals would have to take the entire animal home, plain and simple. However, some see it meaning they can take the meat and simply move the carcass out of the right of way. But if you think about it, you just now placed a rotting animal on someone else's property. I foresee the rule to be changed in the coming years. It's just coming up with good verbiage that will be the hard part.

If the property along the road is private, then yes, the whole animal should be taken away. But if the property along the road is DNR, FS, DOT, etc, then I'd leave the remains there, but move it out of sight if possible. 
If a deer gets whacked on the road it's gonna be laying there for all to see. If someone takes the backstraps and other salvageable meat off it, there's still a dead deer on the side of the road. The guy who takes the meat didn't put the animal there.

[baker5150]

I assumed the entire animal needed to be removed from the area.  I figured for safety reasons.  A dead carcass along a road, even 20 to 30 feet off the road can be hazard.  Scavengers feeding on it can bolt in front of cars when spooked causing accidents. 

I doubt I'd lose sleep if I hit a yote, but if it helps keep and eagle, hawk, etc. from being hit, then it's worth the extra trouble of getting it removed.

[Chesapeake]

A few years back I found a bull elk that was field dressed in that very same manner. It was up in a Roadless area and you could clearly see where the perpetrator(s) had tied their horses some 200 yards from the dead elk. Unfortunately we had seen the individual hauling the meat and horns out on horseback several days earlier so I knew the age of the meat and none seemed salvageable. The area Leo didn't seem all that interested due to lack of evidence and the guy already having left the area.

I mention this just to point out that this type of field dress isn't necessarily related to road kill.

I happened across this video on youtube the other day and whats depicted in the video doesn't look much better as far as meat utilization goes.

[Elkrunner]

Now I am confused.  So we can take it from the roadway and gut it somewhere as long as its not on the roadway?

[DOUBLELUNG]

(2) Disposal methods.
(a) Within seventy-two hours after death or discovery, the owner of a dead animal or, if the owner of the animal cannot be identified, the owner of the property on which the animal is found must properly dispose of the dead animal. A dead animal must be covered or otherwise removed from public view immediately upon discovery by the person responsible for disposing of the dead animal.
(b) The person responsible for disposal of a dead animal must dispose of it in a manner so as not to become a public or common nuisance or cause pollution of surface or groundwater.
(c) The person responsible for disposal of a dead animal must dispose of it by burial, landfilling, incineration, composting, rendering, or another method approved by the local health officer (such as natural decomposition) that is not otherwise prohibited by federal, state, or local law or regulation.

I think a common sense interpretation is that if you claim the roadkill, you become the responsible party for disposal, which at a minimum requires removing the carcass from public view.  Leaving a skinned back or partially boned out carcass in plain view is not ok IMHO.

[NOCK NOCK]

 

[Jpmiller]

Just so everyone is on the same page the right of way ends where private land, or land not controlled by local, county, or state DOT starts. Most roads have at least a ten to twenty foot buffer between private or other public property.

For instance if you hit a deer in front of my house, gutted and quartered it and drug it off the road you would either be leaving it in the public ROW or on my private property, both of which aren't ok. O

[NOCK NOCK]

This is VERY simple, pick it up - take it home/mountains - dispose of remains in a respectful manner.