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Quote from: dwils233 on December 09, 2016, 02:07:42 PMQuote from: bigtex on December 09, 2016, 01:49:00 PMOne issue is not all states are like WA DNR. In Colorado for example state lands are closed to public access unless opened. The vast majority of the state is closed. Those that are open have an open period season so it's not 24/7/365 like most DNR areas. There are other states with similar regulations.Its also my understanding that some states have statues which are written in that lands are to be managed in the must fiduciary responsible way, meaning that they are obligated to sell them or only allow the use that is most financially beneficial to the state. WA DNR is actually not that far off. WA DNR's purpose is to generate $ for schools. DNR is constantly selling lands that generate little to no revenue. DNR sold their chunk of land on Vashon Island because it would cost too much to log it. DNR want's to rid itself of the lands in the San Juans.I've had more than one DNR employee tell me that the agency really wants to eliminate their desert land and be solely in timber because that is where the $ is. The desert land generates no revenue other than grazing and agricultural leases and compared to timber that's a drop in the bucket.
Quote from: bigtex on December 09, 2016, 01:49:00 PMOne issue is not all states are like WA DNR. In Colorado for example state lands are closed to public access unless opened. The vast majority of the state is closed. Those that are open have an open period season so it's not 24/7/365 like most DNR areas. There are other states with similar regulations.Its also my understanding that some states have statues which are written in that lands are to be managed in the must fiduciary responsible way, meaning that they are obligated to sell them or only allow the use that is most financially beneficial to the state.
One issue is not all states are like WA DNR. In Colorado for example state lands are closed to public access unless opened. The vast majority of the state is closed. Those that are open have an open period season so it's not 24/7/365 like most DNR areas. There are other states with similar regulations.
Quote from: bigtex on December 09, 2016, 02:49:17 PMQuote from: dwils233 on December 09, 2016, 02:07:42 PMQuote from: bigtex on December 09, 2016, 01:49:00 PMOne issue is not all states are like WA DNR. In Colorado for example state lands are closed to public access unless opened. The vast majority of the state is closed. Those that are open have an open period season so it's not 24/7/365 like most DNR areas. There are other states with similar regulations.Its also my understanding that some states have statues which are written in that lands are to be managed in the must fiduciary responsible way, meaning that they are obligated to sell them or only allow the use that is most financially beneficial to the state. WA DNR is actually not that far off. WA DNR's purpose is to generate $ for schools. DNR is constantly selling lands that generate little to no revenue. DNR sold their chunk of land on Vashon Island because it would cost too much to log it. DNR want's to rid itself of the lands in the San Juans.I've had more than one DNR employee tell me that the agency really wants to eliminate their desert land and be solely in timber because that is where the $ is. The desert land generates no revenue other than grazing and agricultural leases and compared to timber that's a drop in the bucket.If range land generates no $ then they should raise the rates or trade it off. Part of what people fail to understand is that if there is $ to be made the land will be taken care of and maximized. Truthfully this is my main complaint with the USFS.
Simply, don't you agree we would all be better off with an advocate for outdoor issues inside the Trump cabinet???
Quote from: pd on December 09, 2016, 09:34:35 PMSimply, don't you agree we would all be better off with an advocate for outdoor issues inside the Trump cabinet???I think the concern is she's not an advocate.
She's represented her base quite well, which has always been Eastern Washington. She listens to loggers and ranchers, and most of them would like limit federal land ownership. I differ in that I want to see most of the federal lands stay open to the public, which means not letting private or state ownership since they tend to not give a crap about access.
More swamp draining I see. Really curious who we will get in her seat now.