pre 64 model 70 in a house fire

[oldschool]

 Before I get in to deep after replacing the spring in the bolt everything works fine.Is it possible the barrel could be warped?  Thank You

[724wd]

if the fire was hot enough to ruin the spring, the receiver could be compromised, too.  did the stock burn? 

[JDHasty]

Before I get in to deep after replacing the spring in the bolt everything works fine.Is it possible the barrel could be warped?  Thank You

For your own safety, and anyone else who should come across this forearm in the future, what you plan on reusing must be inspected by a COMPETENT gunsmith. 

[jay.sharkbait]

Before I get in to deep after replacing the spring in the bolt everything works fine.Is it possible the barrel could be warped?  Thank You

For your own safety, and anyone else who should come across this forearm in the future, what you plan on reusing must be inspected by a COMPETENT gunsmith.

Should be. You aren't required to do anything.

[woodswalker]

Please PM me a photo of the stock and condition of the metal, if it was hot enough to effect the main spring, then its probable that the heat treat has been affected and the firearm is possibly NOT SAFE TO SHOOT, at least not without a full inspection by a gunsmith.

Aaron Everett
Grumpys Gun Repair
17020 100th St NE
Granite Falls WA

[oldschool]

 Stock did burn.

[woodswalker]

Stock did burn.

Get it checked...I would hate to read that someone was injured or killed.

[JDHasty]

Stock did burn.

Get it checked...I would hate to read that someone was injured or killed.

I second that motion.  In order to be confident that it is safe it must be checked out by someone who is competent to make an informed assessment. 

[oldschool]

 I can test fire this in a safe places and from a safe distance.

[JDHasty]

I can test fire this in a safe places and from a safe distance.

That alone will not tell you much about the condition of the critical components.  The receiver could be soft and it may look like all is well, until someday down the road all hell breaks loose.  A good gunsmith is not going to charge you much to check it out. 

[oldschool]

 That's what I was wondering. Will a gunsmith be able to tell how strong it is. I guess its of to the gunsmith.Any good ones in Wenatchee?

[JDHasty]

That's what I was wondering. Will a gunsmith be able to tell how strong it is. I guess its of to the gunsmith.Any good ones in Wenatchee?

Yes, a good one will.  I think I have heard that there are some great ones near Wenatchee, but will defer on that to others. 

[oldschool]

 Ok Thank You

[sumpnz]

They can do hardness testing on a part of the gun normally hidden by the stock, or do a repair to the spot tested if it would be visible.  That will likely be the quickest way to see if the heat treatment on the metal has been compromised. 

That said, if the steel is discolored (other than from soot) it's toast.  Pun intended.

Sorry to hear about both the house and the gun.

[Whitpirate]

That's what I was wondering. Will a gunsmith be able to tell how strong it is. I guess its of to the gunsmith.Any good ones in Wenatchee?

Yes, a good one will.  I think I have heard that there are some great ones near Wenatchee, but will defer on that to others.

Hell's Canyon Armory --

Mike Johnson
Mike@hellscanyonarmory.com
509-888-7693

@MichaelJ (he's a member here).

[oldschool]

 number no good for him.

[JimmyHoffa]

I don't know if it is still possible to take something like that to a college; but used to be you could and it only took a couple minutes to do Rockwell and Brinell tests.  Just a quick diamond print and look in the microscope.

[sumpnz]

I don't know if it is still possible to take something like that to a college; but used to be you could and it only took a couple minutes to do Rockwell and Brinell tests.  Just a quick diamond print and look in the microscope.

Given it's a firearm I'm betting it would be bad juju to take it to any school, even a private college.  Most are "gun free" zones.

Might see if there's a machine shop around that does their own hardness testing.

[Night goat]

Time it to a tree, put a round in it, tie a string to the trigger.... hide behind a different tree, pull string, answer question

[jay.sharkbait]

Time it to a tree, put a round in it, tie a string to the trigger.... hide behind a different tree, pull string, answer question

Most use a tire.....

[hogslayer]

That's what I was wondering. Will a gunsmith be able to tell how strong it is. I guess its of to the gunsmith.Any good ones in Wenatchee?

Bring it to Michael at Hells Canyon.  He is in Wenatchee. He is on this site.

[JDHasty]

Time it to a tree, put a round in it, tie a string to the trigger.... hide behind a different tree, pull string, answer question

That is a good way to blow up a gun in your face.  A receiver that has been annealed will usually take blue pill loads w/out any outward sign of anything wrong... unless you have a set of headspace gauges you will not know that the lugs and/or receiver locking surfaces are setting back.  Once critical setback has occurred sooner or later you will blow up a gun in your face.  Probably sooner rather than later.   This really isn't the least bit funny and those who are chiming in here with snarky comments are demonstrably, more likely than not, a clear and present danger to anyone who ever follows their advice regarding anything having to do with the safety of any firearm. 

[jay.sharkbait]

Time it to a tree, put a round in it, tie a string to the trigger.... hide behind a different tree, pull string, answer question

That is a good way to blow up a gun in your face.  A receiver that has been annealed will usually take blue pill loads w/out any outward sign of anything wrong... unless you have a set of headspace gauges you will not know that the lugs and/or receiver locking surfaces are setting back.  Once critical setback has occurred sooner or later you will blow up a gun in your face.  Probably sooner rather than later.   This really isn't the least bit funny and those who are chiming in here with snarky comments are demonstrably, more likely than not, a clear and present danger to anyone who ever follows their advice regarding anything having to do with the safety of any firearm.

Lol
"Clear and present danger"?
Thanks!

[HUNTINCOUPLE]

Boy that really makes my heart hurt to here of such a loss of a great firearm.    Was it in a fire proof safe?

[724wd]

there's still a lot of pre-64 mdl 70s out there.  what's your life or the life of a loved one worth?  If it were me, I'd find another gun... 

[mountainman]

As mentioned above, Mike at Helps Canyon. Or Mitch Rolen at RolenRifleWorks in Malaga. Definetly get rifle checked out!
Sorry to hear about the fire

[oldschool]

 Was not a fire proof safe I do have one now.Thx for all the good advise I will find a good gunsmith.I had one blow up in my face once not fun blind for 2 days.Rifle had been bored out and barrel not restamped. Hells canyon looks like they have moved to Lewiston.

[oldschool]

724wd it was my grand fathers, its a family thing.

[JDHasty]

724wd it was my grand fathers, its a family thing.

If it checks out then you have no worries about rebuilding it.  If it doesn't then... You tried.  I applaud your effort to rebuild and use a rifle that belonged to your grandfather.