Reintroducing Grizzlies

[bracer40]

First one photographed.  http://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/rare-grizzly-bear-photographed-in-north-cascades/

[Colorado Kid]

You can go to the National Park System web page, or google North Cascades Ecosystem to find information.

[Huntin Hounds]

There are already a hand full of grizzlies in the north cascades and northeast Washington. Those move back and forth between Idaho, Canada and Washington. It's amazing with all the grizzlies and wolves in Montana that they still have elk and deer. 

[jasnt]

There are already a hand full of grizzlies in the north cascades and northeast Washington. Those move back and forth between Idaho, Canada and Washington. It's amazing with all the grizzlies and wolves in Montana that they still have elk and deer. 

montana has way more habitat and has always had more deer and elk and they trap and hunt wolves. We don't have that option and never will

[Thefishguy77]

SSS

Done


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[smittyJ]

I was just doing a search on Grizzly Bears PNW and found a 2016 Sierra Club article saying is has been at least 50 since the the last Grizz was photographed. 

[Tbar]

I was just doing a search on Grizzly Bears PNW and found a 2016 Sierra Club article saying is has been at least 50 since the the last Grizz was photographed. 

Can you post a link?

[fisheral87]

Link some would be very helpful if you have already done the leg work?

TIA,

Al

[Thefishguy77]

There are grizzlies in this state already, always have been. They tend to be in more remote little accessed areas and that's a good thing. Same is true for the wolves. There have been wolves at white pass forever. But let's not talk about the existing population let's introduce new stuff.

With all the "re-introduction" of Apex predators it's beginning to appear that the feel good groups of people want to have the forests as their personal zoo.   

I really don't think these people understand the raw power of a grizzly. Staying in your tent trailer and the bear wants in. It's probably harder for us to open a Pepsi.  This whole thing revolves around balance. If they put bear in places they weren't before then the whole system needs to readjust. 7-15 years minimum of adjustment time. Bear population grows elk and deer populations shrink then balance. Factor in wolves and then it's a rebalance. Then factor in humans hunting and it's a rebalance again.

We were fairly well balanced before the wolf debacle and now they are thinning packs or eliminating them all together. Where elk and deer were plentiful a few years back they are scarce now. Moved or eaten we don't really know.

Just wait until the first kid gets eaten and then all heck will break loose.  Remember when that guy (senator?) got attacked by a Black bear over in Leavenworth on vacation. People were shocked that a bear would attack a person.   We have people influencing policy who's idea of being in the woods is driving across I-90 or staying at a campground in Mt. Rainier park. Suddenly they have their finger on the pulse.

Climbing off soapbox now.


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[smittyJ]

I was just doing a search on Grizzly Bears PNW and found a 2016 Sierra Club article saying is has been at least 50 since the the last Grizz was photographed. 

Can you post a link?

Sorry, mis-read it, shot and killed, not photoed.

http://www.sierraclub.org/sierra/green-life/left-coast-griz

[brush hunter]

   why do we need grizzly bear?  mike w

To kill off the animals the wolves miss....DUH!

[JimmyHoffa]

   why do we need grizzly bear?  mike w

To kill off the animals the wolves miss....DUH!

No they run the wolves off the wolf kills so the wolves have to go kill other things.
Saw a documentary on Yellowstone and the bear try to follow the wolves now, stealing the deer/elk/moose from the pack.  The bears don't even hibernate now that they have wolf kills to plunder.

[X-Force]

Here is a short video on what recovery options are on the table.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U927s0bYU34&feature=youtu.be

[garrett89]

They should quit thinking about re-introducing anything. Get rid of the wolves first.

[Thefishguy77]

They should quit thinking about re-introducing anything. Get rid of the wolves first.

Get rid of the introduced wolf first. The ones that have been here since whenever have coexisted just fine with our herds.


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